Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/02/25

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Subject: [Leica] M4/3 format ascendant
From: john at mcmaster.co.nz (John McMaster)
Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 21:05:28 +0000
References: <25244C56-B8A2-4983-92E4-2CDE037B7517@sfr.fr>, <CF326CB8.18B36%mark@rabinergroup.com>

I would guess that it depends on your market, as always.

http://ericbouvet.com/Kiev-s-fatigue were all taken on Fuji APS-C...

john
________________________________________
on behalf of Mark Rabiner [mark at rabinergroup.com]

Its really not about me at all its about the obvious fact that pro photogs
have not eschewed their full frame gear to go two let alone one format down.
The only people who seem to be invested in this nonsense are the toy camera
traders here on the LUG.


On 2/25/14 12:59 PM, "Philippe Amard" <philippe.amard at sfr.fr> wrote:

> Becasue Mark is one of us :-)
>
> And I adore his prose.
> And his night flower shots!
> Amities
> Philippe
> Le 25 f?vr. 14 ? 02:42, Richard Man a ?crit :
>
>> As far as I know, Mark is the only champion in LUG for "(m) 4/3 is
>> crap"
>> banner :-) I really do like Mark, having to have gone out for a
>> outing with
>> him, but why do people feel the need to keep addressing Mark's
>> criticisms?
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 5:17 PM, <lrzeitlin at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Over a year ago when I was still a consultant to Kodak I mentioned
>>> that
>>> the optical engineering manager assured me that it was almost
>>> impossible to
>>> differentiate pictures taken with APS-C and Micro 4/3 formats. This
>>> was
>>> from the guys who developed the sensor for the M8 and worked on the
>>> M9. He
>>> told me that the reason that many manufacturers didn't adopt the M4/3
>>> format was that it required signing up for the entire package, lens
>>> mounts,
>>> image distance, etc. as well as format size. You had to join the
>>> club. Only
>>> a few major manufacturers including Olympus, Panasonic and Leica
>>> opted to
>>> do so. APS-C required no such commitment. My post was received with
>>> great
>>> disinterest on the LUG. The blather about full frame and legacy
>>> lenses
>>> continued. It's a new world guys. Smaller cameras are the wave of the
>>> future. Goodbye to Speed Graphics, Rolleis, even Leicas. iPhones
>>> rule.
>>> Larry Z
>>> - - -?
>>> Jim is absolutely right when he says:?
>>> "Already M4/3 is very hard to distinguish from APS-C for
>>> most applications. And the fact remains that larger sensors mean
>>> larger
>>> lenses. Neither of the top 2 manufacturers of APS-C DSLRs has ever
>>> made a
>>> serious attempt at a high quality lens line for their cop sensor
>>> cameras.
>>> I'm talking about a full range of high speed primes and fast zooms,
>>> so if
>>> the users of APS-C cameras want really good glass, they're forced
>>> into the
>>> full frame lines. Only the m4/3 consortium have made a serious
>>> attempt at a
>>> complete system with premium glass optimized for the smaller
>>> sensor. The
>>> jewel-like Olympus 12mm f/1.8, the 75mm f/1.8, Panasonic 8mm
>>> fisheye and
>>> 7-14 are the result. Extremely compact lenses of extremely high
>>> optical
>>> quality."
>>>
>>>


Replies: Reply from george.imagist at icloud.com (George Lottermoser) ([Leica] M4/3 format ascendant)
In reply to: Message from philippe.amard at sfr.fr (philippe.amard) ([Leica] M4/3 format ascendant)
Message from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] M4/3 format ascendant)