Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2014/02/22

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Subject: [Leica] OT - Sony Alpha 7R
From: sonc.hegr at (Sonny Carter)
Date: Sat, 22 Feb 2014 15:57:33 -0600
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and I think touting Sony as the next big thing, until Sony was the next big

On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 3:48 PM, John McMaster <john at> 

> If you lose the rangefinder stuff I think the M is about the same size as
> the A7; a roll of film in a mechanical camera takes up much less space the
> a decent battery, SD card and sensor+ electronics. The price probably could
> come down if they used an off the shelf sensor, then have issues with wide
> angle lenses like other cameras, however they have to cover R&D costs...
> Anyway, I thought you were saying, about a year ago, that the M was going
> to be the photojournalist resurgence of Leica? ;-)
> john
> -----Original Message-----
> I don't think its  that bad really but I think if that's going to be the
> digital M they should come out with a digital LTM, SM or Barnack depending
> on how you phrase it. A Digital IIIF.
> They can loose M sales to other camera companies or they can make their
> own viable compact system camera with less weight, bulk and cost to appeal
> to non Hedge fund types.
> Not competing with the other camera companies for a true compact high
> quality (FF) means they were shooting themselves in both feet. Not just
> letting them have those sales; in a field they should own. A form
> factor they invented.
> Mark William Rabiner
> Photographer
> On 2/22/14 2:29 PM, "Jim Laurel (gmail)" <jplaurel at> wrote:
> > I agree completely that this should be Leica's single overriding core
> > value, but don't think M240 is as bad as Mark is making it out to be.
> >
> >
> > On Feb 22, 2014, at 10:54 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at>
> wrote:
> >
> >> A very compact but very high image producing camera is a  core value
> >> which Leica should own. It invented it. Leica should be all over it.
> >> Mop the floor with it.
> >
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