Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/12/31

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Subject: [Leica] Noctilux
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2013 12:43:07 -0800
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On Dec 31, 2013, at 12:25 PM, Aram Langhans <leica_r8 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> No matter what you do with a sensor, a 1.0ish lens shooting wide open 
> cannot be duplicated with a 1.4.  Even just from a depth of field stand 
> point, let alone the other characteristics of using such a fast lens wide 
> open.  So, if that is what you want it is indeed necessary.
> 
> Aram, who owned a 1.2 lens at one time but could no longer focus with it.


if you shoot such a lens (or faster) as follows, chances are that you can 
focus it....

shoot RAW and jpeg fine bw with focus peaking, set high, and red....



have a happy...


Steve






> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Richard Man
> Sent: Monday, December 30, 2013 11:07 PM
> To: Leica Users Group
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Noctilux
> 
> I think with the modern digital sensors and cameras, very few lens are
> truly "necessary," and most are a matter of "wants." Nothing wrong with
> that since I succumb to gear lust myself, but the world's best pictures are
> seldom taken by the world's most expensive and best lens.
> 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 10:17 PM, Henning Wulff <hjwulff at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
>> The 0.95 is as good as it gets at high speed, with the well understood
>> downsides of price and size. At smaller apertures the pictures are hard to
>> distinguish from Summilux-ASPH pictures, but the large size and price
>> remain. Focus shift exists but is quite manageable. It is the only one of
>> the three that can be considered an all in one lens, if you can live with
>> the size. This lens, like the other Nocti's focusses down to only 1m, 
>> which
>> is a distinct limitation in comparison to the slower current 50's and in 
>> my
>> opinion its main operational failing.
>> 
>> The f/1 is of much lower contrast at wider apertures, but also sharpens up
>> nicely with the downside of considerable focus shift. It has incredible
>> flare tolerance which allows it to capture images that no other lens seems
>> capable of. A lens shade is largely pointless. This is a lens that is not
>> easy to master and renders in a unique way, but the rewards are great. Our
>> Dr. Ted did most of his medical photography for his books with this lens,
>> and mostly at f/1. True mastery!
>> 
>> The f/1.2 is pointless unless you plan on placing it in an honorary
>> position in your collection. Current prices are exorbitant, and it is not
>> as good a lens overall as the f/1 while being slower. It is a much softer
>> version of the old Summilux 50. The Nokton f/1.1 is definitely a better
>> lens overall.
>> 
>> If you have the Summilux ASPH and an M240, the 0.95 is not as necessary as
>> it was with the M9, but it of course still allows a little but lower light
>> subjects to be recorded successfully (as long as they are at least one
>> meter away) with shallower dof, but the f/1 will allow a different vision,
>> if you are willing and able to master it.
>> 
>> I used to have an f/1.2, have used the f/0.95 and the Nokton f/1.1 and
>> currently have the f/1 and the Summilux ASPH.
>> 
>> Henning
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 2013-12-30, at 9:30 PM, David Ching <davidhhching at yahoo.com.sg> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> > Dear Emanuel,
>> >
>> > The Noct f0.95 is surely superior in some ways to the Lux 50 ASPH or the
>> Voightlander Nokton f1.1 of the later two which I  have.
>> > How would you rate the 3 Noct versions , f0.95, f1.0 and f1.2?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > David Ching
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>> >
>> 
>> 
>> Henning Wulff
>> henningw at archiphoto.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
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> 
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Replies: Reply from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] Noctilux)
In reply to: Message from davidhhching at yahoo.com.sg (David Ching) ([Leica] Noctilux)
Message from hjwulff at gmail.com (Henning Wulff) ([Leica] Noctilux)
Message from richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man) ([Leica] Noctilux)
Message from leica_r8 at hotmail.com (Aram Langhans) ([Leica] Noctilux)