[Leica] IMG: Tina's "Tea Party" reunion propaganda photo

[j2m46 at hotmail.fr (Jean-Michel Mertz)]

This is an excellent photo, not out of focus at all, the main subject, 
people (men) handling a handgun, is clearly at the centre, my eye goes there 
direct, and then there's the rest of the family, women abviously, enjoying 
coffee and a good talk, probably, while their men comment on the best way to 
use the thing they are so passionate about. Life and death. This is what 
this picture is about and this is why it is iconic. Today in Alabama. Could 
be Georgia where my daughter lives. "When will they ever learn?" Thanks, 
Tina.
JM


 
Jean-Michel Mertz
Strasbourg

> Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2013 16:35:32 -0400
> From: images at comporium.net
> To: lug at leica-users.org
> Subject: Re: [Leica] IMG: Tina's "Tea Party" reunion propaganda photo
> 
> http://www.pbase.com/tinamanley/image/152934358
> 
> I would appreciate your opinion, Mark.
> 
> Tina
> 
> 
> On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> > I am very interested in seeing this photo but I think all the url's I'm
> > trying to  click on are second hand and broken. Could it be re posted the
> > url? Perhaps one with a TinyURL to ensure non corruption? I'm really 
> > dying
> > to see it.
> >
> > The Rabs.
> >
> >
> > On 10/18/13 4:08 PM, "Tina Manley" <images at comporium.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Larry -
> > >
> > > I posted the photo because I was appalled and scared and chagrined to
> > find
> > > that my in-laws were all Tea-Party supporters who owned non-registered
> > guns
> > > because they are convinced that the Muslim president Obama will be 
> > > coming
> > > after their guns.  I was surprised that anything in the photo was sharp
> > > because I was shaking with anger as I took it.  Then I got up and left,
> > > saying that I would return when there were no loaded guns in the room. 
> > >  I
> > > didn't return until the next day when the gun-toting guys were gone.
> > >
> > > I like the photo or I would not have posted it.  It reflects what I saw
> > and
> > > what I felt at the time.  If it were up to me, all handguns would be
> > > abolished since their only purpose is to take lives.
> > >
> > > The photo has provoked comment and I'm glad.  It served its purpose and
> > is,
> > > therefore, a successful photo.
> > >
> > > Tina
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 18, 2013 at 3:54 PM, <lrzeitlin at aol.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Don't over react to guns. They are common in rural America. There are
> > far
> > >> more guns in the US than there are Leicas, Nikon, Canons, and all 
> > >> other
> > >> fine cameras combined. The gun culture is alive and well not only in 
> > >> the
> > >> south but in the North West, the mid-Atlantic states and in New 
> > >> England.
> > >> The next time you take a drive on a cross country highway stop in at a
> > >> Cabella's or a Bass Pro sporting goods store. You will see enough guns
> > on
> > >> display to arm a regiment and enough ammunition to stock a medium 
> > >> sized
> > >> rebellion. Schools are even closed during deer hunting season in much 
> > >> of
> > >> Pennsylvania. A successful hunt is the key to a well fed holiday 
> > >> season.
> > >> New York City even hosted the Bannerman warehouse until it moved up 
> > >> the
> > >> Hudson to Pollopel Island. Bannerman and family were merchants who
> > bought
> > >> up most of the military surplus from the Civil War, the 
> > >> Spanish-American
> > >> war and WW I. Most of the world's rebellions until the outbreak of WW 
> > >> 2
> > >> used Bannerman supplied weapons. My father even had a Sears Roebuck
> > sized
> > >> catalog of Bannerman's arms available for resale.
> > >>
> > >> When I was a boy the country was much less urban than it is now. In
> > rural
> > >> communities gun ownership was accepted as a fact of life. Most 
> > >> families
> > >> owned at least two guns, a shotgun for hunting and a 22 cal. rifle for
> > the
> > >> kids to plink around with. Most high schools had rifle teams, usually
> > >> subsidized by the Army. Indeed an armed population was considered the
> > key
> > >> to national defense. What enemy would attack a country with a well 
> > >> armed
> > >> citizenry? The NRA, rather than being dedicated to supporting the 
> > >> Second
> > >> Amendment, was an advocate of teaching marksmanship in schools.
> > >>
> > >> I currently own three guns, a shotgun, a rifle, and a handgun. My
> > favorite
> > >> is a Browning semi-automatic 22 rifle, also John Browning's favorite
> > gun.
> > >> It is beautiful, a true work of art. I bought it on sight 40 years 
> > >> ago.
> > I
> > >> lusted after that gun more than I ever lusted after a Leica camera. It
> > has
> > >> appreciated in price more than twenty times the price I paid.
> > >> <http://www.basspro.com/**Browning-SemiAuto-Grade-I-22-**
> > >> LR-Rifle/product/102<
> > http://www.basspro.com/Browning-SemiAuto-Grade-I-22-LR-R
> > >> ifle/product/102>
> > >> 17873/>
> > >>
> > >> I was taught to shoot as a ten year old at a YMCA camp by a German
> > doctor
> > >> who had served as in infantryman under the Kaiser during WW I. At one
> > time
> > >> I was even capable of shooting a bullet through the center of a
> > cigarette,
> > >> end on, at 50 ft. I shake too much now and my vision isn't what it 
> > >> used
> > to
> > >> be.
> > >>
> > >> The prevalence of arms has a low correlation with gun murder rates.
> > >> Vermont and New Hampshire are the U.S. states with the highest per
> > capita
> > >> gun ownership, minimum regulatory requirements, and also the lowest
> > rates
> > >> of gun homicides. What really disturbs me is traveling through Europe
> > and
> > >> the Middle East and seeing all those young military types in airports
> > and
> > >> wandering the streets with fully armed large magazine assault rifles
> > slung
> > >> over their backs. How responsible are they? You guys who are appalled 
> > >> at
> > >> seeing weapons, think about that.
> > >>
> > >> Now about Tina's picture of a "Tea Party" family reunion. This may be 
> > >> a
> > >> minority opinion but I think it is a poorly composed, unsharp, 
> > >> snapshot
> > of
> > >> a family at a dinner table with one person handing a gun to another.
> > Just a
> > >> bad picture. Peter is right is stating that prudent gun handling
> > practices
> > >> are being violated. The is no indication that it is a "Tea Party"
> > meeting
> > >> at all. Even Tina's  original title on her web site does not identify
> > it as
> > >> such. This picture is far below Tina's usual standard and I suspect 
> > >> was
> > >> titled and posted only to evoke comment. And you can see. It did.
> > >>
> > >> Larry Z
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
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> >
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