Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/09/11
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Still nothing wider than 16mm from Leica, CV is the only game in town other than the Zeiss ZM 15mm. Not sure if the latter is still made, every example I have seen (I have been looking) comes from the same batch of ~1000 serial numbers, it is better than the CV but not as much so as the price difference implies ;-) Comes to life with LV as it is remarkably difficult to guess close focus at f2.8... ZM 15mm f2.8 - http://johnmcmaster.com/PAW/2013/27/content/L3000765_large.html CV 12mm f5.6 - http://johnmcmaster.com/PAW/2013/27/content/L2003225_large.html john ________________________________________ My recollection is that Cosina ultrawides piqued interest in people who couldn't justify paying for a Leica ultrawide. I'm not sure I can justify paying for a Cosina ultrawide; I just don't use them any more. I do remember when digital was sort of a verboten subject on the LUG. These days, digital is the norm on the LUG. I'm glad that this group is still hanging in there, even if they don't always use Leica. I quit the Pentax forum because (1) it often didn't involve Pentax, and (2) it often didn't even involve photography. That's a bad combination. Jeffery On Sep 11, 2013, at 12:20 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > A long long time ago Leica gear became an unaffordable waste to discuss on > the lug as soon as Cosina made bodies and lenses cheaper and earlier to buy > and sell and buy and sell. > > The Leica S gets less attraction on the lug Geoff And you're right the > Fuji and Olympus 1.5 crop rangefinders gets the continual day by day > headlines. Its just like Starbucks: small is tall. > Here small format is large format. > 24x18mm is large format now. Small equals large. A bit Alice and Wonderland > like! > The key is getting quality on something called a camera which doest make > for > completely embarrassing oneself. The sensor has to be bigger than your > pinky > toenail. > But mainly the idea going big here is a disposable consumer camera you buy > and trade three times a year > > not the $21,950.00 investment the Leica S is. > > So if small format is large format than medium format is anything you want > it to be mainly unnecessary and nobodies listening because you're talking > about a Ferrari 8-cylinder and everyone else wants a powered scooter. > The main issue is an S is not somthign you can buy on a whim. > To cheer you up how much talk is there really lately about a new Leica full > frame M (240) that you can snap up for a measly eight grand usd?!?!? > Not when there's stuff out there you can get for a lot cheaper. > > Leica gear was very popular on the Lug until Cosina came along and started > making it all cheaper. Than it was all about how unaffordable and > unnecessary Leica gear was. There is nothing new under the sun. > > On 9/11/13 12:25 AM, "Geoff Hopkinson" <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks for more looks and comments guys. >> For clarity, as mentioned these are simply snapshots for fun while I >> tried the >> camera handling and operation. They are all soft from camera movement >> handheld >> at slow speeds and from some noise reduction afterwards too. >> I only posted three. As with from my M I'm just planning to post more >> content >> rather than technical chat. >> >> I'm often surprised what attracts more comment on the LUG! I need to find >> a >> cat and some more flowers and buy a Fuji ;-) ;-) ;-) >> >> >> Cheers, >> Geoff Hopkinson >> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >> >> >> >> >>> >>> On Sep 10, 2013, at 10:32 PM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote: >>> >>> Just for fun. What happens when you try out an S where an M would be >>> the better tool >>> (high ISO, largest aperture, too slow handheld speeds) >>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/image/152283508 >>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/image/152283510 >>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/image/152283509 >> >>