Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/09/11

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Subject: [Leica] S snapshots
From: hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson)
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 07:16:48 +1000

Hi Mark. Actually I meant to say that I was a bit surprised to see multiple 
responses on my couple of snapshots  (with the S) when the last large sets 
of M9 photos I worked hard at I got nearly zero interest. Those were art 
nudes though so I guess they don't fit what the LUG at large likes to see or 
comment.

Caution technical chat follows ;-)
FWIW anyone that really likes their M8/9 for what they are great at will 
really love the M. I've only shot about 500 frames with mine so far due to 
personal circumstances but it is in every way a more refined M9 if you like. 
I plan to give it a comprehensive exercising in Barcelona over the next 
couple of weeks. I don't bother talking about it on the list because there 
doesn't seem to be much overt interest and only a few in LUG hands thus far 
of course.  
The pro segment for Hasselblad/Phase One and S is so small, almost none of 
us are likely to be involved. There are pluses and minuses for each system 
and the handling and lenses are particularly good with the S.
But the M9 and M are better studio cameras than the S2 and S are street 
cameras ;-)

Cheers,
Geoff Hopkinson
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman

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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2013 01:20:12 -0400
From: Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
Subject: Re: [Leica] S snapshots
To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
Message-ID: <CE5575CC.104A0%mark at rabinergroup.com>
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A long long time ago Leica gear became an unaffordable waste to discuss on
the lug as soon as Cosina made bodies and lenses cheaper and earlier to buy
and sell and buy and sell.

The Leica S gets less attraction on the lug Geoff And you're right the
Fuji and Olympus 1.5 crop rangefinders gets the continual day by day
headlines.  Its just like Starbucks: small is tall.
Here small format is large format.
24x18mm is large format now. Small equals large. A bit Alice and Wonderland
like!
The key is getting quality on something called a camera which doest make for
completely embarrassing oneself. The sensor has to be bigger than your pinky
toenail.
But mainly the idea  going big here is a disposable consumer camera you buy
and trade three times a year

not the $21,950.00 investment the Leica S is.

So if small format is large format than medium format is anything you want
it to be mainly unnecessary and nobodies listening because you're talking
about a Ferrari 8-cylinder and everyone else wants a powered scooter.
The main issue is an S is not somthign you can buy on a whim.
To cheer you up how much talk is there really lately about a new Leica full
frame M (240) that you can snap up for a measly eight grand usd?!?!?
Not when there's stuff out there you can get for a lot cheaper.

Leica gear was very popular on the Lug until Cosina came along and started
making it all cheaper. Than it was all about how unaffordable and
unnecessary Leica gear was.  There is nothing new under the sun.







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