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Subject: [Leica] Mr. B. D. Colen speaks
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Sun, 07 Jul 2013 13:08:02 -0400

Its just that when  you see  the great Ansel Adams color or Edward Weston's
its like " "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain." they really
have no mystique or anything.... No craft.
They are darned close to artless.
Both have really bad color books out and I've seen both their large
transparencies in person.
Does the process make the man or the man make the process?
My process I mean the black and white workflo.
And by that I mean your black and white prints. In this case darkroom
prints.
But Weston had a younger son Cole who committed fully to color. And his
stuff looked pretty darned good continuing the Weston greatness into color.
8x10 Kodachrome. When it first came out..
http://www.edward-weston.com/cole_weston.htm

By the way if you Google contact sheet "B. D. Colen" no black and white
shots come up. Not one. What does come up are interestingly off center tiny
head shots done of MIT and Harvard professors . I give him credit for
shooting for the school papers. I call a person who does that a
"photographer".  Hitting deadlines. Making viable results. The rhetoric does
not help. Especially when it overtly conflicts with the walk. The talk has
to match up with the walk. An article on a photographer with non of his
work? I'd think the last thing a writer who wants to be a photographer would
want.

The other issue is "Theme"  "The Me". Which is an embarrassing photo blog of
which till now I've never heard of.  Makes "the online photographer" look
good in comparison.

On 7/7/13 10:03 AM, "Ric Carter" <ric at cartersxrd.net> wrote:

> Maybe, just maybe:
> 
> We regard black & white as better because it was the medium of FSA, HCB, et
> al.
> 
> The pictures are better because the FSA greats and HCB had a better eye, 
> not
> because they used black & white
> 
> just a thought
> 
> ric
> 
> 
> On Jul 7, 2013, at 8:50 AM, Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Me too, Ric,  and I shoot color for all the reasons BD shoots Black and
>> White.  When I started, color was expensive and hard to do.  I had to save
>> up to get Kodachrome film for my vacations.
>> 
>> 
>> On Sun, Jul 7, 2013 at 7:33 AM, RicCarter <ric at cartersxrd.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> Love BD, but I'm in Jay's camp.
>>> 
>>> ric
>>> 
> 
> 
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