Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2013/06/27

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Subject: [Leica] Classic Leicas still available
From: lrzeitlin at aol.com (lrzeitlin at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 10:59:49 -0400 (EDT)

 Those of you that want to return to the glory days of film Leicas, take 
heart. There are plenty of classic used Leicas around at very reasonable 
prices. Some for less than a dinner at a gourmet restaurant. See why the old 
timers liked the uber reliable mechanical cameras. You can still buy good 
B&W film and develop it in your bathroom. With a scanner you don't even need 
a wet darkroom.


Here is a partial list of NYC camera stores. There are dozens more. Every 
city has a few old time stores. Disregard the new equipment on display. Walk 
to the back of store and look at the used equipment moldering away on the 
shelves and drawers. It helps to ask the oldest employee in the store or 
perhaps the owner. Most will be happy to get rid of that old stuff.


The best hunting ground is in NYC's photo district, the region between 14th 
and 23rd street, east of Park Avenue. Check out the pawn shops too. Many 
photographers simply hock their old film equipment in order to buy the 
latest digital technology. I picked up a nice M3 and a decent IIIc that way 
for less than the price of a Broadway play ticket. Lenses too.


The secret to getting cheap Leica equipment is to disregard the appearance 
of the camera. Despite the prejudice of the LUG, most tatty looking Leica 
gear is not cherished by casual buyers. Especially when new digital stuff is 
so cheap. Cracked or missing vulcanite, scratches, minor dents, and obvious 
wear marks markedly lower the value for collectors. If you find a good 
camera candidate, make sure all the shutter speeds work, especially the low 
speeds. Check to see that the viewfinder is clear and that the rangefinder 
image is easily visible. Fit a trial lens and make sure that the rangefinder 
focuses. There should be no stiffness in the winding lever or knob. Lenses 
should not be fogged nor should the diaphragm bind. Focusing should be easy. 
You can ignore a few cleaning scratch marks and even a small chip if you can 
get a reduced price. It helps to bargain. There are so few buyers for old 
film cameras.


A decent first or second edition collapsible model Summicron can be bought 
for less than two hundred dollars. A DR rigid model costs a bit more. If you 
cannot find a good Summicron, opt for a Summitar. Erwin Puts claims that it 
is just about as sharp as the Summicron and a lot cheaper. Both the 35 mm 
Summaron and the 90 mm Elmar are outdated but still will take excellent 
pictures.?


Of course the real way to get into Leica photography on a budget is to opt 
for the older screw mount cameras. The IIIC and the IIIF cameras take 
pictures every bit as good as the M cameras and the bodies and lenses are 
MUCH less expensive. Besides you will have the pleasure of using a classical 
Leica. Sure there is a demand for the IIIG and pristine late model IIIFs . 
But remember that Leica made over 270,000 IIIC and IIIF cameras, most of 
which are sitting unused on closet shelves. And plenty of optical firms made 
screw mount lenses that would work just fine on the cameras. Among the best 
are the Canon screw mounts, often much cheaper and better performing than 
Leica lenses. The Canon 100 mm f3.5 is regarded as one of the sharpest short 
telephotos ever made. Where else can you find a 50 mm f1.2 lens for less 
than the sales tax on a Noctilux?


Good hunting.


Larry Z




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