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Subject: [Leica] Winograd exhibit
From: lew1716 at gmail.com (Lew Schwartz)
Date: Tue, 7 May 2013 00:31:30 -0400
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Well, he certainly had a lot of skill, and what we see is the result of a
lot of editing. We don't know for a fact who or what everything was that he
actually photographed. Ok, ok; I know ... same difference ... move the
argument over to what we actually see after edits. I don't understand the
kind of bias you're hinting at. If someone shoots cowboy shows, which he
did, would that make him biased against antique fairs? I also don't think
of criticism as a form of acknowledgement or recognition.
It's like "Criticize me!! That way I'll at least know you know I'm
here."  Good criticism is way more than this. Poor people and rich people
don't go in for this sort of attention and neither do I, although I'm
neither.

-Lew Schwartz


On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 12:10 AM, Richard Man <richard at 
richardmanphoto.com>wrote:

> Lew, may be it's a form of approval,... or may be it is a form of color
> blindness. Come on, during the long period he photographed, from 40s to
> 80s, there were no interesting, even people to be critical about, of other
> races that he had met or seen?
>
> We are not talking someone who takes 100 pictures or even 1000 pictures a
> year. In that case, what do you expect type of thing. He takes 100 pictures
> a day easily. If you roam the streets of LA, or NY etc. and take that many
> pictures, it takes skills not to take pictures of people of colors or
> Asians...
>
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 8:48 PM, Lew Schwartz <lew1716 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm not sure I entirely understand Richards remarks. Winogrand never
> > represented himself to be a news photographer, although he undoubtedly
> took
> > assignments and was presented to the public under that rubric. I've
> always
> > thought of him as highly critical of the society he photographed. His
> > omissions may be a form of approval.
> >
> > -Lew Schwartz
> >
> >
> > On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:35 PM, Phil Swango <pswango at att.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Richard Man wrote:
> > > > Winograd is not my favorite street artist, mainly because it's the
> same
> > > > type of photos he shot. For example, the periods he covered included
> > the
> > > > civil rights movement and of all the hundreds of photos in the show,
> > > there
> > > > are may be 3-4 photos where African American are present, and as far
> as
> > > we
> > > > can tell, exactly one photo where there is an Asian present - and
> only
> > > > because she was pretty and had goofy hair.
> > >
> > > Interesting thoughts Richard.  We just had a lecture in the local
> museum
> > > about race, representation and photography.  There's also an
> interesting
> > > new book in which an AA female photographer shoots her white friends
> and
> > > muses on whether and how race may figure into reading the photo.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/05/22/some-of-her-best-friends-are-white/
> > >
> > > If the link doesn't work look up Myra Greene.  The book is "My White
> > > Friends."  I've ordered it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> > > 505-262-4085
> > >
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