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Subject: [Leica] IMG: Studio fashion
From: hopsternew at gmail.com (Geoff Hopkinson)
Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 09:25:15 +1000
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Thanks to those folks who looked and took the time to comment on and off
list and especially to Bob for thoughtful critique. I'll be posting quite a
few more from the series as I develop them. I don't think that anyone else
is posting this kind of work on this list. Maybe its not a great fit
socially here. I shoot and show lots of other stuff of course

For Phong and Scott:
The portrait is with "clamshell lighting" or "over under" if you like. Here
specifically a beauty dish with diffuser angled from front above and a mid
size soft box that is angled up from low to nearly fill all of the shadowed
areas. Both on very low power and in very close.The beauty dish is less
soft than the soft box but still wraps around. The idea is to have a lot of
light in there and very flattering skin tones especially for beauty.

The M9 works perfectly with wireless transmitter and manual setting to
synch.Since these are typically stopped right down I've found that the dSLR
I got for the AF is really no faster at all to use. Framing convenience and
operating speed for file saving/processing of course still goes to the
dSLR. No surprise which system has the very best optics on the front.

I've read commented that only photographers count catch-lights! Probably
for the same reasons that we put our noses in very close to large prints
;-)

The full length shot is using the same beauty dish light (angled down from
the side) as the main and the fill from body height into the shadows from
opposite. A third light with a small reflector onto the background for that
even plain shadowless look. I guess this is closer to catalog than
editorial. I'm interested in showing the beauty of these young women in
flattering light.

For Bob:
Thanks for the links too.
I've been following some instruction locally in workshops from a talented
and successful Aussie photographer whose work I admire, Peter Coulson and
from tutorials from Scott Kelby.

I love window light for portraiture and I promise I'm still committed to
the shadow side.
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/son
 Here I'm just trying different things (beauty and fashion leaning) and I
want people to look and think, wow that is a beautiful young woman. This is
all meant to be gentle and soft light everywhere

I can do drama and shadowed forms (well I'm learning there as well). I just
mainly post Leica shots on this list.
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/ann
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/mel




*If you want to take more interesting pictures,
stand in front of more interesting stuff* -- Joe McNally

Cheers
Geoff
http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman


On 11 April 2013 02:34, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:

> Nice models, but you really need a pro camera to capture them correctly;
> try an S2... ;-)
> I think your portrait photography could benefit from watching these two
> videos. The first is about classic lighting (hey, gotta learn the rules
> before you break them);
>
> http://www.sekonic.com/classroom/webinars/classical-posing-and-portrait-lighting.aspx?utm_source=Lyris&utm_medium=eBlast&utm_campaign=Sekonic%2BWebinar%2BInvite%2B3%2F21%2F13
>
> The other is a bit broader in application:
>
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2nNxaBA6ss>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2nNxaBA6ss
>
>
>
> Though you have exposure down and shadow highlight areas, I think you need
> to make the light tell your story. More shadows to highlight the subject
> you want me to concentrate on. The shadows should not only direct but
> provide pleasing form to emphasize the viewers experience to what you want
> it to be. In essence I think your images are too flat. For example you name
> one Eyes. But the light doesn't direct me there. The lighting is pretty
> much the same in all. Needs more shadows to tell your story. Otherwise it's
> just nice exposure of pretty people with basic lighting skills. I want more
> drama!!
>
> All with good intentions,
> Bobb
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 12:22 AM, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > second look from a new shoot at home with a new to me model, Courtney
> > M9 & Elmarit M 90
> >
> > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/image/149615259
> >
> >
> >
> > *If you want to take more interesting pictures,
> > stand in front of more interesting stuff* -- Joe McNally
> >
> > Cheers
> > Geoff
> > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
> >
> >
> > On 9 April 2013 22:01, Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > First look from a new shoot at home with a new model today.
> > > M9 &Summilux 50 ASPH
> > > Sorry Ted I used 3 twinkie lights!
> > >
> > > <http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman/image/149597285>
> > >
> > > *If you want to take more interesting pictures,
> > > stand in front of more interesting stuff* -- Joe McNally
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Geoff
> > > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
> > >
> >
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>
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