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Subject: [Leica] Technical detail--why?
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 15:33:34 -0700
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Steve Barbour

On Mar 24, 2013, at 3:29 PM, Cedric Agie <cedric.agie at gmail.com> wrote:

You don't have to take notes anymore with the Leica M-9. The camera
does it for you.
There must be a reason.
***
the same reason we have weathermen in places it never rains...



Years ago Leitz made ads saying; "Leitz heist precision". Or the name
of Leitz is precision.

Regards

Cedric

2013/3/24  <tedgrant at shaw.ca>:
> Nathan Wajsman OFFERED:
> Subject: [Leica] Technical detail--why?
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>> Someone, I think Cedric, commented on Jean-Michel's pictures today, asking
>> for technical details. That got me thinking--back when I first took up
>> photography in 1985, I religiously noted lens, exposure etc. in a 
>> notebook.
>> I still have that notebook. The only thing is, the I have never actually
>> used the information noted therein. Nowadays, I do not care about the
>> technical details, indeed, when I post my weekly pictures, I don't even
>> mention the equipment used. What's the point? Either the photo is good or 
>> it
>> isn't. Whether I used my 4x5 or my iPhone should not influence the 
>> viewer's
>> evaluation.
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>> Technical details are useless at best, and harmful at worst.<<<<<<<
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> Hi Nathan,
> Keeping details as I have heard many many photogs do over the years. I have
> always asked.... "why do you do that?" The usual reply is great if one is a
> techie instead of a photographer first.  "Just in case I need it to take a
> similar picture."  Or, "so I will know what lens or film I used." As though
> they're going to shoot the same scene same place 5 years later.
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> The logical time anything technical needs to be "remembered" is there is a
> specific action seen in the photograph." Blurred background in a foot race
> or race cars and one wants to illustrate the high speed.... Whether you
> write it down or not doesn't matter as all you need to know is to use a 
> slow
> shutter speed  and pan camera as fast as the cars or athletes are moving.
> 
> It's called.... "Shooting swishy-pans" And I've done that since my first
> Summer Olympics in Mexico 1968? Sure makes high school kids in a race look
> like they're going 100 miles an hour.
> 
> Like you, in my very early days I asked a photographer about keeping 
> records
> as it appeared every frame he shot he wrote it into a "little black book"
> full of numbers, lens size, film, ASA rating etc etec. So I thought, "Gee 
> if
> he's doing that I better do it as it must be very important because he
> writes it down after every picture taken."
> 
> Bought a little black book, dated the page, location, camera (Leica of
> course,) lens, aperture and shutter speed. ) As I closed the book after an
> entry a super neat stock-car crash had begun to happen! In the confusion of
> writing down the stupid information I missed a particularly amazing crash 
> of
> two cars rolling over and over!
> 
> I bent down, picked up the little black book and threw it as far as I could
> into the race track infield and never ever ever made any notes again! But
> the techies love it!  In reality it's nothing but an incredible waste of
> time for real photographers who take pictures to capture incredible content
> moments!
> 
> I DON'T CARE WHO THE HELL THE PHOTOG IS, THERE IS ONLY ONE THING YOU NEED 
> TO
> DO !
> 
> and that is shoot succesful, interesting and on occaision.......  mind
> blowing photographs.
> 
> WHAT LENS? HELL TELL ANYONE ASKING, ANY OLD NUMBER AS IT WONT MAKE ANY
> DIFFERENCE SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY WONT OWN, NOR RUSH OUT AND POP $3 or $4
> THOUSAND FOR THE LENS IN ANY EVENT.
> 
> And even if they did the chancs are they'd be so busy making notes they'd
> miss the shot with their new $4k shining new lens.
> 
> But then what doesn't turn my heart into a racing vehicle of excitment
> having written it in the little black book. Turns the techie into a 
> fireball
> of wisdom because they have it written down for the next occaision 25 years
> from now when they need the information.
> 
> cheers,
> Dr. ted :-)
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>> Cheers,
>> Nathan
>> 
>> Nathan Wajsman
>> Alicante, Spain
>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
>> 
>> YNWA
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