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Subject: [Leica] IMG: TMZ 3200 NOW 6400 AND HIGHER?
From: tedgrant at shaw.ca (tedgrant at shaw.ca)
Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 15:41:26 -0800
References: <CA+yJO1A5-PJZF1AYd410-kjJzAnVZT1QqiB6w7s3AHyy-Ns36w@mail.gmail.com>

Tina Manley SHOWED:
Subject: [Leica] IMG: TMZ 3200


Hi Tina,
That TMZ-3200 Looks like some I had in the freezer some years ago and 
unfortunately Irene had buried it under some frozen foods she had bought.

About 8 months later I discovered it, used it and the grain was the size of 
house bricks! :-(

I enquired of our Kodak rep....... a very astute gal with almost every 
technical question you could ask and she could answer right off the top of 
her head without referring to anything.

Much to my surprise she said... "3200 film should be used as soon as 
possible, don't have it hanging around for months, particularly if you 
should push it a stop or two."

Why?" I asked.

 SHE.. responded, "Well it's such a sensitive film that unless you use it as 
soon after purchase, the radiation levels of Planet Earth will begin to fog 
it. Or start a form of exposure. That actually begins the day the film is 
manufactured whether the film is in a freezer or wherever? The effect is 
going on all the time due to radiation levels of the planet! So if you're 
working with it always get it exposed and souped as soon as you can."

So crew, given Tina's grainy photo triggered that bit of long ago KODAK 
conversation from many years past, I wondered  has anyone ever heard of that 
before?  I can see it as a possible with 3200 TMAX, but have always been 
left with a bit of a question mark how bad it might get and whether my "what 
appeared super grainy size images were actually due to what she said? Or 
just pushing it to 6400? And or maybe? A bad moment of film souping?"

Thoughts and or answers? Of course it's an almost waste of time question now 
most are shooting digital. It's purely a curiosity driven question aat this 
point? Oh and of course, I exposed all film with a Leica "M?" camera. ;-)
thanks,
cheers,
Dr. ted :-)







> Here is why some of my scans are so grainy.  This is TMZ 3200 as you can
> see by the film canisters that Junior is holding.
>
> http://www.pbase.com/image/149007766
>
> The kids love empty film canisters and use them for soldiers and cars and
> all kinds of toys that they invent.   As long as I can keep the exposed
> film dry, if I don't have to carry the canisters back home, that's fine!
>
> Besides the obvious grain, C&C greatly appreciated!!
>
> Tina
>
> -- 
> Tina Manley, ASMP
> www.tinamanley.com
>
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