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Subject: [Leica] Canon doesn't see it quite like Mark
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2013 19:26:31 -0500

I was looking a month ago and there is a square option with other format
options on a popular medium format back which can be used on old Hasselblad.
You don't take advantage of the whole size of the sensor but then they're
that big it doesn't not seem like an awful thing.
I'm real fond of shooting square my first two cameras did so.
I went from 4x4 cm to 28x28mm before I got my first 35mm
#1 camera: 
1958 10-12 yrs old: (1960-2) Brownie Starlet
http://www.geh.org/fm/brownie/htmlsrc/mE13000055_ful.html#topofimage
     http://www.vieilalbum.com/BrownieStarletFR.htm
Manufactured : 1957-62 Lens : Dakon Shutter : Rotary Quantity Made :
Original List Price : $6 Film Size : 127 Negative Size : 4x4 cm

#2 camera
1963 13-14 yrs old: Brownie Instamatic 100  126 Cartridge  28x28mm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instamatic




On 2/6/13 4:21 PM, "Christopher Saganich" <csaganich at gmail.com> wrote:

> Mock it up on a white background...Looks fine
> 
> On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Bill Pearce <billcpearce at cox.net> wrote:
> 
>> Actually, as I understand it, Kodak thoroughly understood the concept of
>> square, but remember the company was run by dolts, because they didn't see
>> the applicability other than for CIA satellites.
>> 
>> -----Original Message----- From: Chris Saganich
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 10:16 AM
>> To: Leica Users Group
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Canon doesn't see it quite like Mark
>> 
>> One parallel regarding digital and film format is that it is a function of
>> economy and necessarily chosen to reflect the economic artistic strata you
>> wish to participate.  Being a film user in 2013 I'm doomed to 
>> participating
>> in the lowest strata regardless of my Leica MP and the difference between
>> my results or those of a K1000 are meaningless today.  Whether a full 
>> frame
>> compact can compete with new digital M is too narrow an issue for
>> meaningful opinions about output, but if your goal is MOMA you better be
>> saving for a digital 10x8.
>> 
>> On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 2:17 PM, George Lottermoser <imagist3 at mac.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 4, 2013, at 1:06 PM, Frank Filippone wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Never say never..... at least on availability if a FF 6x6 sensor.....
>>>  cost
>>>> and ability to actually own one is a totally different issue....
>>>> 
>>>> Look how far (big)  they have come already....   Phase One offers sensor
>>>> sizes of up to 54x40mm.... which is REALLY close to the actual 645
>>> negative
>>>> area
>>>> 6x6 film had an image area of 56x56 ( memory might be off a bit..).. we
>>> are
>>>> about 2/3 of the way to that goal .....
>>>> 
>>>> Of course, the sensor makers do not know about the concept of "square"
>>>> so
>>>> maybe it is a bit longer till they figure it out.....
>>> 
>>> true enough - re: never say never - though
>>> I will continue to doubt it come to be - at least in my lifetime.
>>> 
>>> Perhaps when the medium format design-heads move to C-mos?
>>> 'til then I think we're up against a cost-heat-design-wall.
>>> 
>>> )though I'm not an engineer - nor do I pretend to be one(
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> George Lottermoser
>>> george at imagist.com
>>> http://www.imagist.com
>>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/**imagist <http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>> 
>> --
>> Chris Saganich
>> www.imagebrooklyn.com
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