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Subject: [Leica] Gun control
From: photo.forrest at earthlink.net (Phil Forrest)
Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2012 01:29:21 -0500
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Most countries in the East also don't have the freedoms of speech,
religion, press like we do here. Right to due process of law. Innocence
until proven guilty by a jury of one's peers. Right to a speedy trial.
Right to be secure in one's effects. Equal protection under the law for
all citizens. Right to vote. The list goes down the Bill of Rights and
through the rest of the US Constitution. No matter what nation says
they have it right, they are wrong. Nobody is perfect, including the
USA but here in the USA we have these rights and many are willing to
give their lives to protect them.

Phil Forrest



On Sat, 15 Dec 2012 14:11:42 +0800
David Ching <davidhhching1 at yahoo.com.sg> wrote:

> Most countries in the East ban possession of fire-arms by individuals
> and unlicensed bodies. Schools here do not have metal detectors. 
> The students in general study in safe environments little affected by
> violence, drugs or extortion. Only bullying by peers rears its ugly
> head in certain schools. We watch the same violent movies. Have the
> same concerns about safety. This is the 21st century. Why does
> Americans need to have guns for self-protection? Stop shooting games
> & hunting with bullets. 'Shoot' with glass! Capture not kill not
> maim. It's time to act when little innocent kids get killed and
> scarred for life. 
> 
> It's indeed a very sad day in the history of the USA. And I am
> certain some other shooter will try to outdo this latest insane act. 
> 
> Mark, the firearms industry and gun toting lovers will always defend
> the right to arms. Until one of their kind is personally affected, I
> suppose. Sorry but I don't see the logic. Perhaps our differences in
> lifestyles account for this madness. It's not matter of the East
> versus the West. The Europeans do not bear arms. 
> 
> As I see it, the only way out is a total ban on guns for the civilian
> population. Of course with the usual exceptions.. 
> 
> 
> David Ching
> 
> 
> 
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