Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/11/30

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Subject: [Leica] Leica in the LUG
From: grduprey at mchsi.com (grduprey at mchsi.com)
Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2012 14:42:19 -0600 (CST)

Sounds about right to me Peter.  And I still shoot with my M8 (Don't have a 
M9), and R8DMR, even though I have a Nikon D4 to play with.

Cheers,
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Klein" <pklein at threshinc.com>
To: "lug" <lug at leica-users.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 2:20:22 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica in the LUG

Geoff:  You're not alone. I am interested.  I really am. But:

1. The M (240) is not yet available.
2. When it becomes available, it will only be available to the folks 
that pre-ordered it.
3. Then it will become unavailable again.
4. The usual Web sites will publish glowing articles an how bleeping 
incredible the camera is and how no serious photographer could possibly 
live without it.
5. The other usual Web sites will publish snarky articles about how the 
camera takes OK pictures, but nothing you couldn't do with a much more 
versatile midrange C or N, about how it's neck jewelry for the "1%," and 
about how they're not sure how Leica can still exist, even though it does.
6. Someone on the Internet will find something seriously wrong with it.
7. There will be several weeks/months of debate on whether the above 
complainer used proper methodology, whether it's really a problem, and 
whether Leica will survive the outrage.
8. Leica will fix whatever problem was found.
9. The camera will become available again.
10. Something Later and Newer will capture the attention of the 
photographic hive mind.

It's somewhere between Steps 8 and 10 that I will consider whether the 
new M might improve my photography sufficiently that it would be worth 
selling a bunch of stuff and depleting my retirement savings to buy it.  
If it would, I may bite. If not, I might upgrade to an M9 that a new M 
purchaser is unloading.  Meanwhile, I'm reading everything I can about 
the new M.  I'm hoping the new sensor puts it in the same high ISO 
ballpark as the better DSLRs and the Fuji X-Pro 1. I'm optimistic that 
it will still show the character of those incrediblishe lensen vee love 
zo much  (mit apologies to Jon Streeter  :-)

In the meantime, I continue to shoot with my M8 (remember them?). And 
also with an un-Leica with very modern technology (Oly OM-D E-M5) for 
the things that a rangefinder and digital Leicas don't do as well. 
Unfortunately, that includes ISOs of over 800.

Knock wood, I can still focus an RF at one year shy of 60, and it's 
still my preferred way of working. If I had money to burn, I would 
already own an MM--I love B&W, and it does beautiful high ISO. And if 
hard times hit and I had to sell all my toys but a few, I'd keep my M6 
and a 50 Summicron, and shoot whatever fast B&W film was out there.

So, can I stay?  :-)

--Peter

Geoff Hopkinson wrote:
> Am I alone in being also interested in the forthcoming new Leica cameras
> here? Post activity sometimes seems to be anything but Leica
> My delete key is wearing out prematurely ;-)
> Paradigm shifts, Fujis, Sonys, DXO whatever,.... can't tell the
> difference.....a new crop of why product X or S is better than the M9,
> three years after the M9 actually came out and it is discontinued now
> anyway.
> The M typ 240  will be a huge evolution. Mine's on order. I guess we have
> no S system owners at all? but that new model is also evolving a great 
> deal.
> At least the Monochrom is of interest and that one really is a "paradigm
> shift"
> Jeesh!
>
> Cheers,
> Geoff
> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman


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