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Subject: [Leica] My wife - thanks!
From: frank.dernie at btinternet.com (FRANK DERNIE)
Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 17:20:08 +0000 (GMT)
References: <20121118152556.MKOX26743.eastrmfepo102.cox.net@eastrmimpo305> <39B9B6B0-9062-4DF2-A422-E8E286E9F69F@frozenlight.eu>

I am in the UK. I have travelled the world for work for 35 years. I have, 
thankfully, almost never needed medical care but in both France and the UK 
it has been satisfactory when needed.
My mother needs medical help quite often and I always accompany her, since 
her memory is going. She is always kindly and patiently treated.
My sixth grandchild was born last week in the John Radcliffe Infirmary in 
Oxford. I can't imagine anywhere has better care or more delightful midwives.
The NHS is pretty good in my experience.

I must say I have always been concerned to need medical care in the US. I 
don't doubt the quality of the care (should I?) but since it is a very 
profitable "industry" in the US the potential charges scare me sh*tless.

Anyway, my present to me when I retired was a promise to never go to an 
airport again, so a moot point...

FD



>________________________________
> From: Nathan Wajsman <photo at frozenlight.eu>
>To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> 
>Sent: Sunday, 18 November 2012, 16:26
>Subject: Re: [Leica] My wife - thanks!
> 
>As a father of two children currently living in the UK, I can only say that 
>our family's experience with the NHS has been uniformly positive. And if 
>you think the US "free market" system does not ration care, you live in a 
>dream world.
>
>Cheers,
>Nathan
>
>Nathan Wajsman
>Alicante, Spain
>http://www.frozenlight.eu
>http://www.greatpix.eu
>PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
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>
>YNWA
>
>
>
>
>On Nov 18, 2012, at 4:25 PM, jon.streeter wrote:
>
>> Don't get me started on socialized medicine.? Britain stopped treating 
>> macular-degeneration patients a couple of years ago on the grounds that, 
>> well, it's incurable.? So let's forget about trying?? What's next?? Stop 
>> treating the elderly because they're going to die pretty soon anyway?? 
>> Your hospital fired you:? was it something you said? 
>> 
>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone
>> 
>> ----- Reply message -----
>> From: "scleroplex" <scleroplex at gmail.com>
>> To: <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Subject: [Leica] My wife - thanks!
>> Date: Sun, Nov 18, 2012 5:35 am
>> 
>> 
>> Dear Douglas,
>> My best wishes to your wife and you.
>> 
>> I am always sad to hear of missed diagnoses because imaging was not
>> resorted to early on.
>> It is an enduring fight with both insurance companies and socialists 
>> within
>> medicine for whom
>> the total cost to society outweighs any benefit to the individual.
>> 
>> The socialists running the hospital which fired me 2 years ago has
>> published numerous papers
>> aiming to scare people away from imaging as well as defaming the 
>> intentions
>> of doctors who order MRI scans.
>> My takedown of their latest fraud is here -
>> http://www.flickr.com/photos/scleroplex/6811713204/
>> 
>> It is very sad that the two of you have been put into this spin cycle in
>> the first place.
>> Never ever ever give up and do remain aggressive.
>> 
>> There are many breast cancer trials presently -
>> http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?term=breast+cancer&recr=Open&rslt=&type=&cond=&intr=&outc=&spons=&lead=&id=&state1=&cntry1=&state2=&cntry2=&state3=&cntry3=&locn=&gndr=&rcv_s=&rcv_e=&lup_s=&lup_e=
>> One can search by country as well.
>> 
>> Enjoy every single day.
>> Bharani
>> 
>> Bharani Padmanabhan MD PhD
>> Boston
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Message: 28
>> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 01:18:37 -0000
>> From: "Douglas Barry" <imra at iol.ie>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] My wife - thanks!
>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Message-ID: <A5AEAF67FE8B412A9E7E91A5FAB923BF at Family>
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>> 
>> A very rough period for both of you, Gerry, I hope all goes well.
>> 
>> My wife and I are spinning through the same rinse cycle in that particular
>> hellish washing machine right now. G was diagnosed in the latter part of
>> August - primary breast cancer with lots of secondary tumours in her 
>> bones.
>> Missed by two doctors when she went to them about her bad back. Took a 
>> third
>> visit and a demand for an MRI to determine the real problem. Specialist 
>> team
>> are great though. However, no promise of cure either, but they're hoping 
>> it
>> can be controlled. I could fill several pages on the various operations 
>> and
>> hospital stays, but...
>> 
>> Anyway she was released home yesterday three inches shorter than she used 
>> to
>> be, but hopefully things will pick up from now on.
>> 
>> Personally, photography has gone out the window in a blizzard of domestic
>> duties. It's certainly an altered life.
>> 
>> Douglas
>> 
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