Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/10/15

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Subject: [Leica] D800E pixel-peepers
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 16:45:26 -0400

Lot of these smart tasteful younger kids college age I guess really worship
low tech. I just visited the Lomo place here in NY for the first time last
week. Seems lots of people have high end low tech ideas. These cameras are
not being sold for peanuts by the way.
Though they were selling a new lomo spinner for 99 bucks. My price point
exactly.
I think if the generation which cut their teeth shooting Leicas are all done
or lazy the youngest generation will replace them marketwise for Leica.
They know how HCB and DDD were and what they shot.
If they're going to shoot digital at all it would be with a Leica if they
could. What a film loving shooter shots when they cant shoot film.

The Lomo spinner
http://usa.shop.lomography.com/spinner-360

I seem remember them not costing 99 bucks but $9,999. and 99 cents and made
in Switzerland.

Mark William Rabiner
Photography
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/


> From: Frank Dernie <Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2012 17:18:00 +0100 (BST)
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] D800E pixel-peepers
> 
> Personally I'd be surprised if the M appeals to many more photographers 
> than
> the M9, perhaps 10%-20%, plus maybe a few for whom it will be an acceptable
> vehicle for their R lenses.
> I've been wrong before, though.
> I am a bit concerned that it may appeal to a few wealthy younger 
> photographers
> for whom the craft of photography is a bit of a mystery, those who have 
> only
> used auto-focus matrix metering photo-computers in the past. A few showed 
> up
> having bought M9s and they were -completely- baffled by it. Their slagging 
> off
> on the 'net was not pretty, even though it was merely, unbeknown to them,
> merely illustrating their own lack of education.
> FD
> 
> 
> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Sent: Monday, 15 October 2012, 16:21
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] D800E pixel-peepers
>> 
>> Because of the Leica M and Monochrom cameras.
>> Both will be sought after by top reportage people, street shooters. All
>> kinds of shooters really.
>> The M9 was not so much in the limelight because it was not so much in the
>> low light. Full frame alone was not enough to make the difference. People
>> want Jam on their bagels. They most certainly wanted to do what could be
>> done with a DSLR. Now they can. Even zoom.
>> We'll see a huge difference public relations wise with stories about top
>> jobs being shot with the new Leica M's. Night jobs, low light jobs.
>> Traditional standard Leica M jobs.
>> 
>> The Leica glass which has come out in the past decade will be allowed to
>> shine like never before. As well as the Leica glass from pervious decades.
>> 
>> My Leica glass is mainly from the turn of the millennium. The Late 90's.
>> Early 2000's.
>> The 21 and 24 Elmarit ASPH 's and the 35mm Summicron ASPH. A Noctilux and 
>> a
>> 135 f3.4 Telyt M APO. And two 90's an Elmarit from the previous vintage 
>> made
>> with NASA money and the ASPH APO Summicron.
>> When I got a new M its going to be quite a thing getting much of this 
>> glass
>> to work with it I guess. No clue how much I'll have to budget for that.
>> 
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> Photography
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>> 
>> 
>>> From: John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz>
>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 22:26:05 +0000
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] D800E pixel-peepers
>>> 
>>> So why do you think that 2013 will be the year of Leica's resurgence?
>>> 
>>> john
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> 
>>> Yes I would love a direct comparison of? a D600 with modern nikon 50mm 
>>> being
>>> put to shame by Leica's latest. The fact is Canons and Nikons are 
>>> producing
>>> gorgeous images every day by the top people out there as we speak. I'd 
>>> think
>>> for 5 times the money a Leica could edge it out a bit. But its not going 
>>> to
>>> be
>>> a big deal.? Nobodies going to be shedding a tear they are forced to use 
>>> the
>>> Canons and Nikons. Canon Nikon results are exquisite. Leica is proably a 
>>> bit
>>> more that that.
>>> 
>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>> 
>>> 
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