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Subject: [Leica] turn around time for coding lens for digital M's
From: benedenia at gmail.com (Marty Deveney)
Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 14:10:52 +1030
References: <20599.17411.591734.750669@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <CAJ3Pgh6oy+qWndG1-22sNW3uaKR+jeqs6YO-vmK6+K=nsrRAcQ@mail.gmail.com> <CAE3QcF6q22UgtfbLrejFZa23o1EAshpecaPgg4nbRk0Rj2Jamw@mail.gmail.com> <BAEF0DB452924DFF9966D90D76311564@syneticfeba505> <CAE3QcF6qXRt-ozSbjfhcU1f7c7e3Eh9ko6HymsTP4RKoh4U2bA@mail.gmail.com> <A426AF03412E4FCCA5665ECC12FBBAA0@syneticfeba505> <6262B0B0-77EC-4E8A-A51F-4B55CD534073@acm.org> <CAE3QcF7aXApfNRuYe0H8B-qaP=oSjMis1aTxpJE7P8hVJup1rQ@mail.gmail.com> <3EC5BA13-4A2C-47D4-AAF8-3875063E6C52@acm.org>

And the position of several of the internal elements / groups can be 
adjusted.

And the FLE lenses have 4 helices.

Marty

On Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Herbert Kanner <kanner at acm.org> wrote:
> You have been a great source of information, Geoff. BTW the link you 
> included did not work tonight (7:59 pm PDT) because of "internal server 
> error". I gather from other postings that the two helices that constitute 
> the differential thread can be rotated independently relative to the lens 
> elements. I can see where adjustment would be tricky.
>
> Herbert Kanner
> kanner at acm.org
> 650-326-8204
>
> Question authority and the authorities will question you.
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 12, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote:
>
>> More than one log you threw on the fire, Herbert ;-)
>> Yes there really are lasers and computer analysis involved!. I've watched
>> the rangefinder adjustment done. Mere mortals don't get invited into their
>> lens assembly clean rooms though.
>>
>> DP Review posted an informative article in 2009 you might like to look at.
>> http://www.dpreview.com/articles/leicafactory2009/
>> Look at the sensor positioning adjustment in the body and the rangefinder
>> adjustment.
>>
>> Digital M's are not only more critical (due to the effectively zero depth
>> of the sensor) with lens adjustment but people can readily see any (human
>> or equipment) error at high magnification on their computer monitor
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Geoff
>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12 October 2012 15:51, Herbert Kanner <kanner at acm.org> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm gonna add some fuel to this fire. Maybe there is some technical
>>> witchcraft going on that I don't understand, or maybe some of you guys 
>>> are
>>> just plain superstitious and Leica is talking a lot of impressive 
>>> bullshit
>>> about lasers and suchlike.
>>>
>>> So here is the understanding I've had for years as to how Leica worked
>>> interchangeable lenses with a rangefinder mechanism.
>>> 1. The rangefinder was designed to work with a 50mm lens in that the as
>>> the lens unit moved to and from the film plane, the real end of the lens
>>> container pressed against a roller on a lever that actuated the 
>>> rangefinder
>>> mechanism. Other lenses used a pair of threads (the technical term being
>>> differential threads) so that as the lens focussed (with greater motions 
>>> if
>>> the focal length was more than 50mm and lesser motion if less than 50mm)
>>> the rear cylinder would move the same distance as that of a 50mm lens. 
>>> With
>>> that kind of system, the only adjustment that would be possible would be
>>> setting the infinity stop and setting the distance marking ring to agree.
>>>
>>> Also, there is absolutely no reason for a digital camera to have any
>>> different focussing problems than a film camera. It just that the focus
>>> might be a bit more accurate since the sensor is rigid and there is 
>>> always
>>> the possibility, despite a pressure plate, that the film is not exactly 
>>> in
>>> a plane.
>>>
>>> Herbert Kanner
>>> kanner at acm.org
>>> 650-326-8204
>>>
>>> Question authority and the authorities will question you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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