Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/10/10
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]To me this hard fact that you are expressing here that: " A print on good Photorag might have a contrast ratio of maybe 150:1 compared to maybe 10000 :1 of a common LCD screen." To me this makes the whole concept of the "soft Proof" really questionable. It would be soft how? Soft in the head. How a proof? A proof means you've just run a test this is not a test your just looking at your screen. The only proof your going to get is to hit the print command on your keyboard. Look at it. And decide where to go from there. Mark William Rabiner Photography http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > From: Geoff Hopkinson <hopsternew at gmail.com> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 07:57:34 +1000 > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: Re: [Leica] LR4 Soft Proofing > > And you need to have created and installed those profiles from elsewhere > before you can select them for printing or soft proofing. Those may be the > 'canned 'profiles from the paper manufacturers or custom profiles. > Notice the perceived difference when a 'white' border is displayed in that > soft proof mode though. > > Actually the new LR changes effectively duplicate Photoshop's printing > capabilities with more smarts added (resolution and colour space background > automation for two). > With most monitors in any case the luminance and contrast will not echo > well what the print displays (not even considering the transmissive vs. > reflective conditions). Few monitors can cover more than sRGB as well but > good inkjets can approach AdobeRGB. > A print on good Photorag might have a contrast ratio of maybe 150:1 > compared to maybe 10000 :1 of a common LCD screen. > > High end monitors like the best Eizos and NECs confer a lot of advantages, > including in these areas but maybe that is another conversation. > > Cheers, > Geoff > http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman > > > > On 11 October 2012 06:39, Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com> > wrote: > >> Herb, on the upper right of the Develop panel, if you enable "Soft >> Proofing," it has "Create Proof" and you can select which profile you are >> soft proofing. Most of the time, you would select your paper/printer >> combination that you are printing on. >> >> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Herbert Kanner <kanner at acm.org> wrote: >> >>> Even after seeing Adobe's tutorial on the subject, I'm really puzzled. >>> Allegedly, Soft Proofing is supposed to show you areas of a picture that >>> are "out of gamut" and enable you to make minimal changes in hue or >>> saturation to put those areas back into gamut. But doesn't gamut depend >> on >>> media? That is, doesn't the gamut that can be presented depend, e.g. on >> the >>> printer/paper combination or the limitations of a monitor? >>> >>> Since I'm viewing the picture on a monitor, what I get to see is, by >>> definition, in gamut. Just for fun, I clicked the Soft Proofing box on >> the >>> recent picture of some orchids, The blossoms were indicated to be "out of >>> gamut" and went into gamut after I reduced the saturation to the extent >>> that they were pale ghosts of their former beauty. >>> >>> The Soft Proofing option is in the Develop Module, which, to my >> knowledge, >>> has no way of specifying the profile of a printer/paper combination. I >>> can't image how one would effectively use Soft Proofing. >>> >>> Herbert Kanner >>> kanner at acm.org >>> 650-326-8204 >>> >>> Question authority and the authorities will question you. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information