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Subject: [Leica] (SPAM: ?) Re: (SPAM: ?) Re: Ganesha Chaturthi Part 1
From: jayanand at gmail.com (Jayanand Govindaraj)
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 22:41:47 +0530
References: <CAEve6XhRZrrYa8+CVf1Dg+KNq+=3TpRQe-Zx3XWaQ-vJvh_aRw@mail.gmail.com>

Whatever the history, it is unfortunate. Nothing is achieved by inserting
wedges between citizens of a country. for religious and ultimately
political ends.
Cheers
Jayanand

On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 10:17 PM, scleroplex <scleroplex at gmail.com> wrote:

> very lovely photos sir, as always
>
> re "it became a
> huge celebration in Mumbai, a religious show of strength, and this attitude
> has unfortunately seeped into a large part of the country."
>
> in 1948 the muslim population agitated for and won a massive Partition
> along religious lines.
> the land of bharat was partitioned into a Post-Partition Hindu India and a
> Post-Partition Muslim Pakistan.
>
> naturally people who stayed in Post-Partition Hindu India assumed, phew,
> they would no longer be attacked,
> kidnapped, beheaded, burnt alive or have acid thrown on their faces.
>
> sadly, none of that ever stopped as the muslims decided one Pakistan was
> not enough when the rest of Post-Partition Hindu India was still there for
> the taking.
>
> thus they began holding huge muslim prayers in the middle of mumbai, inside
> Post-Partition Hindu India, blocking the streets and traffic every friday,
> most famously in an area called Mahim Creek.
>
> they also routinely burnt Hindu pilgrims alive for years and years when
> they travelled to and from Hindu shrines inside Post-Partition Hindu India.
>
> the hindus of and in Post-Partition Hindu India finally began retaliating,
> most prominently after Hindu pilgrims were burnt alive inside a passenger
> train in 2002.
>
> there were further attacks on Hindu temples inside Post-Partition Hindu
> India as well as bombings of commuter trains in mumbai and even a three-day
> armed assault in 2008 by citizens of and from Post-Partition Muslim
> Pakistan.
>
> in response, Hindus in Post-Partition Hindu India began to celebrate Hindu
> festivals prominently inside Post-Partition Hindu India.
> it is certainly a more classy response that Charlie Hebdo's cartoons.
>
> also see - http://www.flickr.com/photos/scleroplex/5470355008/
> and
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/scleroplex/5488543585/
>
> as i wrote, if Hindus cannot travel to sites of Hindu pilgrimage inside
> Post-Partition Hindu India with the expectation that they would not be
> burnt alive, where can they?
>
> all major Hindu temples have been under armed protection for years.
>
> and the few Hindus left inside Post-Partition Muslim Pakistan have stepped
> up their efforts to flee.
>
> because people have pussy-footed around these unassailable facts for years,
> the fascists have been emboldened to now demand
> that saying anything deemed offensive to muslims anywhere be made illegal
> at the United Nations level.
>
>
> http://jonathanturley.org/2012/09/24/egyptian-president-demands-criminalization-of-anti-islamic-speech-at-united-nations/
>
> "One of Mursi?s chief aides, Emad Abdel Ghaffour, announced this weekend,
> ?we call for legislation or a resolution to criminalize contempt of Islam
> as a religion and its Prophet. The voice of reason in the West will prevail
> if there is mutual respect, dialogue and efficient lobbying for this
> critical resolution.?
>
> The ?voice of reason? appears to be saying that we need to sacrifice free
> speech on the altar of religion. Moreover, ?mutual respect? now means that
> critics must remain silent in their views of Muhammad and Islam."
>
> naturally most people are too scared to call a spade a spade.
>
> this week i just finished reading salman rushdie's memoirs.
> well worth one's time.
>
> and a year ago Oxford published another useful book -
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Silenced-Apostasy-Blasphemy-Choking-Worldwide/dp/0199812284
>
>
> just as it is wrong to rape a woman regardless of the clothes she was
> wearing at the time, a point that has since lead to demonstrations called
> "Slut Walks" which i wholeheartedly support, it is equally wrong to kill or
> threaten someone with death based on a comment or cartoon or book.
>
> the boston globe's wasserman has a delightful cartoon on this point -
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/scleroplex/8001625070/in/photostream
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SlutWalk
>
> cheers!
> bharani
>
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 21:31:41 +0530
> From: Jayanand Govindaraj <jayanand at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Leica] Ganesha Chaturthi Part 1
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>, PSM
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> I had taken part in a photowalk on 19th September, together with my PSM
> club mates. That was the day of a major festival in India, Ganesha
> Chaturthi, in honour of the elephant god, Ganesha. He is the god of wisdom,
> prosperity and luck - and so is very widely worshiped. This festival was a
> relatively benign affair till a couple of decades ago when it was noticed
> that it would always fall close to Ramadan (Eid ul Fitr), and it became a
> huge celebration in Mumbai, a religious show of strength, and this attitude
> has unfortunately seeped into a large part of the country. Anyway, in
> Chennai it still is a relatively benign affair. Traditionally we do pooja
> to an idol of Ganesha made of mud, which is then immersed in a water body
> and dissipates back into nature. Anyway some shots in and around the the
> Kapaleeshwarar Temple, supposedly in operation since the 7th century,
> dedicated to Shiva, the Hindu god of destruction - Ganesha is his son in
> Hindu mythology. All taken with the Fuji X-Pro 1 - a few with the 60mm f2.4
> and the majority with the 35mm f1.4 lenses. I am glad to report that
> autofocus speed has increased dramatically after the recent firmware
> update.
>
> Eye contact with a god:
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/album254/DSCF0645.jpg.html
>
> Morning News:
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/album254/DSCF0598.jpg.html
>
> Discomfort:
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/album254/DSCF0609.jpg.html
>
> Umbrellas:
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/album254/DSCF0629.jpg.html
>
> Shade:
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/album254/DSCF0632.jpg.html
>
> Devotee:
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/album254/DSCF0646.jpg.html
>
> Fresh Idols:
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/jayanand/album254/DSCF0659.jpg.html
>
> Please see LARGE!
>
> Comments and criticism, as ever, welcome.
>
> Cheers
> Jayanand
>
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