Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/09/13
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Its being compared directly with Leica. I do feel the delay in coming out with a truly full frame sensor in a truly compact body is not one of waiting or the technology to catch up. Its one of waiting for the guts of the marketing people of the photo industry to catch up with the fact that even though its going to cost a bunch more to put out a lot of people are still going to buy it. Just like a lot of people bought Rollei 35's and later other quality compacts with quality optics even though they could by a plastic point and shoot for half that. The full frame sensors were compact enough. They just cost too much. The Sony marketing people deserve as much credit if not more than the Sony camera designers and engineers. Mark William Rabiner Photography http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > From: Mark William Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 10:32:25 -0400 > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Big news D600 and RX1 > > That's the RX100 not the RX1 sorry! > > It seems the RX1 is part of a progression of which I was not aware. > The 100 had a "one inch" sensor which means who knows. > The 1 had a full 24x36mm sensor. > To me that makes it a true Rollei 35. > Not sure if its a bigger camera than the 100. > > Mark William Rabiner > Photography > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > > >> From: Mark William Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 10:20:41 -0400 >> To: Mark William Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >> Conversation: [Leica] Big news D600 and RX1 >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Big news D600 and RX1 >> >> "The Rollei S35 Rides Again" >> http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/sony_rx100.shtml >> >> >> Mark William Rabiner >> >> >>> From: Mark William Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >>> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 07:05:39 -0400 >>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Conversation: [Leica] Big news D600 and RX1 >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Big news D600 and > > >> From: Mark William Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 10:20:41 -0400 >> To: Mark William Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >> Conversation: [Leica] Big news D600 and RX1 >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Big news D600 and RX1 >> >> "The Rollei S35 Rides Again" >> http://www.luminous-landscape.com/reviews/cameras/sony_rx100.shtml >> >> >> Mark William Rabiner >> >> >>> From: Mark William Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >>> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 07:05:39 -0400 >>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>> Conversation: [Leica] Big news D600 and RX1 >>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Big news D600 and RX1 >>> >>> WU-1B >>> Put that puppy on your D600 and it shoots the image right into your cell >>> phone >>> so you can pretend you shot it with your cell phone and upload it to your >>> friends. Also you can really take the picture with your cell phone using >>> your >>> WU-1B thing. It makes your nikon go off. >>> >>> Mark William Rabiner >>> Photography >>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >>> >>> >>>> From: Mark William Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 06:55:34 -0400 >>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Big news D600 and RX1 >>>> >>>> Bottom line at the top I forgot.... >>>> While the nikon costs an even two grand USD I see now the Sony is >>>> closer to >>>> Three grand. Just under. But comes with a lens built in. and fits in >>>> your >>>> pocket if your pocket is on the bigger side. >>>> >>>> Mark William Rabiner >>>> Photography >>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >>>> >>>> >>>>> From: Mark William Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 06:49:11 -0400 >>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Big news D600 and RX1 >>>>> >>>>> I see the Sony's MP's is 24.7MP the Nikons 24.3. >>>>> So the weight of the two cameras the MP's and the format sizes are >>>>> virtually >>>>> equal coincidently for these two released today cameras. >>>>> Its just that the Nikon needs a lens and the lightest ones I have >>>>> weigh 4 >>>>> or >>>>> 5 ounces. 120 or 150 grams. >>>>> >>>>> The Sony built in lens looks like a Zeiss and is gorgeous and is a f/2 >>>>> Carl >>>>> Zeiss Sonnar T* 35mm. Made by who knows? Sony maybe. >>>>> I'd like to know who designed the typography. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Mark William Rabiner >>>>> Photography >>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> From: Mark William Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> >>>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>>> Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 06:37:33 -0400 >>>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >>>>>> Subject: [Leica] Big news D600 and RX1 >>>>>> >>>>>> Today the D600 new Nikon body is announced which weights less than a >>>>>> Nikon >>>>>>>>>> F >>>>>> or Canon F1 and is full frame and cost an even two grand. 24 mps which >>>>>> his >>>>>> twice twelve not three times. This puts it at the top of my short list >>>>>> for >>>>>> what I'll be proably shooting with in the very near future. >>>>>> >>>>>> But equally exciting to me is the first full frame true compact camera >>>>>> just >>>>>> out today. Its from Sony and is called the RX1 >>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/9ddfogv >>>>>> >>>>>> In the old film days a compact camera would take 35mm film and few >>>>>> were >>>>>> half >>>>>> frame. They were full frame and were worth taking seriously. >>>>>> Now with digital over the past decade compacts get announced and >>>>>> bought >>>>>> and >>>>>> used as if thee were the same. But he sensor sizes though having high >>>>>> megapixels were stupidly small. They were toy cameras to me not >>>>>> worthy of >>>>>> being part of a Leica orientated conversation. >>>>>> Sony has finally cracked the paradigm and came out with a pocket >>>>>> camera >>>>>> with >>>>>> a full frame sensor proving it could be done. I think this shakes the >>>>>> foundations of the camera industry and will be a boom for serious >>>>>> image >>>>>> makers such as myself who really like to have a camera with them at >>>>>> all >>>>>> times. >>>>>> My D700 with the 60mm macro on it now weighs more than my Rolleiflex >>>>>> 2.8f. >>>>>> And darned hard to lug with me every day for years as I have done. It >>>>>> is >>>>>> 1435 grams. >>>>>> The D600 is 759.7 grams and the RX1 >>>>>> The Sony is 782 grams with lens which I don't think comes off. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark William Rabiner >>>>>> Photography >>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information