Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/07/26

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Subject: [Leica] A new M from Canon
From: Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com (Frank Dernie)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 08:37:33 +0100
References: <CC366429.21A79%mark@rabinergroup.com>

High speed flash works incredibly well in macro, and looks completely 
natural if you know how. The down side is weight and bulk.
Given how much manual shake there is at macro distances I wouldn't hold your 
breath for an effective VR/IS solution.
FD

On 26 Jul, 2012, at 08:04, Mark Rabiner wrote:

> Thanks and a damn shame and I was wrong then. When they can get
> stabilization in macro photography will be be a huge help.  I'm sure they
> can some day. macro photography as many of us know is not just snap shots
> down close it is hugely difficult on a number of unexpected levels if you
> haven't researched it before you try it.. You need much faster shutter
> speeds then at normal lengths and you need also to stop down a lot more.
> What we do have now is hugely faster shutter speeds which make macro much
> more doable than before.
> VR would be a great boom.
> Before that macro is darned hard to do without flash. Normally on a cord
> held up or to the side. Tripods don't help as the things like branches are
> moving in the slight breeze. And a bug is moving of course. Also there is a
> thing where off camera flash somehow does not look like off camera flash in
> macro work.
> But by the way VR is not going to help with bugs.
> A flash fired at a few feet away goes off very fast making for an effective
> shutter speed of many times faster than any shutter. Exactly what you need.
> 
> Mark William Rabiner
> Photography
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
> 
> 
>> From: Frank Dernie <Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 07:45:08 +0100
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] A new M from Canon
>> 
>> I have this lens and like it. The VR is fairly ineffective at macro
>> magnifications, since the shake is way more than can be realistically
>> compensated by a moving set of elements.
>> The fact that the VR does not work well for macro is pointed out in the 
>> lens'
>> instructions supplied by Nikon with the lens (which I would not normally
>> read).
>> OTOH as a stabilised normal lens it works brilliantly.
>> FD
>> 
>> 
>> On 25 Jul, 2012, at 20:26, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>> 
>>> The 105 macro which I have on my camera right now having been sent it
>>> yesterday is now VR  in the past year which has I've been told and I
>>> believe; revolutionized it's use in the macro world in which I'm so fond.
>> 
>> 
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