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Subject: [Leica] The Fishbowl - improved?
From: lluisripollquerol at gmail.com (Lluis Ripoll)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 23:57:31 +0200
References: <CC3387AD.21928%mark@rabinergroup.com>

Mark,

Thank you very mych for detailed explanations, I've read some reviews  
and the R3000 looks a great printer for B&W , please note that the  
indicated prices in Spain are in Euro, on the other hand Epson store  
is more expensive than other shops, I've saw prices 100 Euro cheaper.  
Spanish market is under developped to sell prints and the actual  
recession do it still more difficult, I can have good professional  
services in Barcelona. At the present moment I'm quite busy examining  
my old archives, and as a first step I can still do some other books,  
this is a useful manner to have organized the archives.

cheers
Lluis


El 24/07/2012, a las 4:58, Mark Rabiner escribi?:

> I use a R3000 I got at a close out price not too many months ago. At  
> least I
> thought I see its not been replaced by a newer model yet as I  
> thought was
> going to happen. I'm guessing it's probably dominated the market for  
> several
> years not this model. More serious people will use a 17 inch 3880.
> But the D300is  a 13 incher. Will print 13x19's. My last show was in
> Manchester UK and I printed 11x17's for them. Some where cut down to
> 11x14's. 11x14's in the past were the default size for a photographers
> portfolio. And sometimes their shows but it got to be more people  
> were doing
> 16x20's. In the 90's.
> I print a lot of 5x7's now and carry them around with me. Its my  
> default.
> A quick check I see them being sold now for $749. I think there's a  
> rebate
> which takes 100 off. I see on the Epson site its sold for 649 usd  
> with the
> rebate they are mention. I'm surprised its still there I thought  
> they were
> on the way out.
> inks are pigment not dye so its thought to have a nice print life so  
> its
> good for a gallery show or serious collector. Your market.
> If your price point is higher get a 17 inch model. I had one before  
> but
> could not at this point in my new life in NY make use of a 17x22  
> inch print.
> Many of my shows have been 16 x 20's so a 13x19 is a kinder and  
> gentler
> version of that. And a 17x22 is that on steroids.
> The R3000 is great for B&W as well as color and is great for mat as  
> I use
> but can do gloss a look which we wanted for darkroom work but we  
> don't for
> inkjet. We want 100% rag paper which is matt. The blacks are better  
> than we
> ever got in the darkroom even with special developers.
>
> http://www.epson.es/Tienda/Impresoras-y-multifunciones/Epson-Stylus-Photo-R3
> 000
> Or
> http://tinyurl.com/buagkfr
>
> http://www.epson.es/es
>
>
>
>
> Mark William Rabiner
> Photography
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>
>
>> From: Lluis Ripoll Querol <lluisripollquerol at gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 01:26:24 +0200
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] The Fishbowl - improved?
>>
>> This one was scanned with my film Scanner Plustek, I know this is not
>> the best, but actual film scanners as Nikon are very expensive, I
>> don't know about a drum scanner..., for the Epson printer, you are
>> right, this is an step I shall do, but on this case I will need still
>> more time..., BTW which printer not too expensive do you recomend?
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> cheers
>> Lluis
>>
>>
>>
>> El 24/07/2012, a las 1:14, Mark Rabiner escribi?:
>>
>>> I'd have a drum scam made and buy and Epson and be an image maker.
>>> Your darkroom now is your Epson and your scanner and Photoshop.
>>>
>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>> Photography
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>>>
>>>
>>>> From: Lluis Ripoll Querol <lluisripollquerol at gmail.com>
>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 01:08:15 +0200
>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] The Fishbowl - improved?
>>>>
>>>> Mark,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your advice and kind words, I have no printer but the
>>>> proffessional lab where they develop my films they can do a good
>>>> work.
>>>> This picture was made in my film days, developped by me, this is
>>>> TMY400. I think that a film picture could be better in a wet print
>>>> than on a digital paper, but I'm not sure that the Lab can gave the
>>>> edition I want, and there a while I'm not using my darkroom, but  
>>>> if I
>>>> not try it I will never know...
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Lluis
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> El 24/07/2012, a las 0:46, Mark Rabiner escribi?:
>>>>
>>>>> I think you really nailed it right on the money! (did it right)  
>>>>> Its
>>>>> a shock
>>>>> to then see the previous washed out version! To me the image now
>>>>> is a
>>>>> serious contender. A real prize winner.
>>>>> I'd make a 13x19 print of it on Hahnem?hle 100% rag matte paper!
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Lluis Ripoll Querol <lluisripollquerol at gmail.com>
>>>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>>> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 00:31:49 +0200
>>>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>>> Subject: [Leica] The Fishbow2 - improved?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Following the advices of Mark and Geoff I've contrasted and
>>>>>> darkened a
>>>>>> little the face, what do you think?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Unpublished/89010335PBN1.jpg.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> here is the previous one
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/luisrq/Unpublished/89010335PBN.jpg.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks in advance for your opinions
>>>>>>
>>>>>> saludos cordiales
>>>>>> Lluis
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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