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Subject: [Leica] Daguerreotype Plate Sizes at 72 dpi
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 18:38:05 -0400

This just in:
"Re: Half plate - exact size?
Whole plate is 6.5 x 8.5 inches.

Cut it in half and you get the "European Half-Plate", which is 4.25 x 6.5
inches.
"American Half-Plate" is 4.25 x 5.5 inches. I don't know why the Americans
went with the less-elongated format... maybe someone else can chime in."

>From the internet.
So it must be true.


- - from my iRabs.
Mark Rabiner
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/


> From: Mark William Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 17:52:41 -0400
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Conversation: [Leica] Daguerreotype Plate Sizes at 72 dpi
> Subject: Re: [Leica] Daguerreotype Plate Sizes at 72 dpi
> 
> A quick search and it seems to really be 4.25 x 5.5 inches coming from all
> directions on the list.
> 
> - - from my iRabs.
> Mark Rabiner
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
> 
> 
>> From: John McMaster <john at mcmaster.co.nz>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 21:30:24 +0000
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Daguerreotype Plate Sizes at 72 dpi
>> 
>> Isn't half plate 4.25" x 6.5" (rather than 5.5")?
>> 
>> Ah, 6.5" for glass plates and sheet film but 5.5" for tintypes -
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tintype
>> 
>> Learnt something already today :-)
>> 
>> john
>> ________________________________________
>> 
>> 
>> Here are the Daguerreotype Plate sizes worked into pixels from the I think
>> original Cm sizes
>> Whole Plate:    6.5 x 8.5 inches    (16.5 x 21.5 cm)  462 x 602 pixels
>> Half Plate:    4.25 x 5.5 inches   (11 x 14 cm) 308 x 392
>> Quarter Plate:    3.25 x 4.25 inches    (8 x 11 cm) 224 x 308
>> Sixth Plate:    2.75 x 3.25 inches    (7 x 8 cm) 196 x 224
>> Ninth Plate:    2 x 2.5 inches    (5 x 6 cm) 140 x 168
>> Sixteenth Plate:    1.375 x 1.625 inches    (3.5 x 4 cm)   98 x 112
>> 
>> Its the cm size times 28
>> 
>> Introducing the numbers 28 and 72 to them certainly does not turn them 
>> into
>> any warm and fuzzy numbers.
>> 
>> Here was the conversions from inches.
>> 
>> Whole plate        6-1/2" x 8-1/2"     468 x 612 pixels
>> Half plate         4-1/4" x 5-1/2"     306 x 396
>> Quarter plate     3-1/4" x 4-1/4"     234 x 306
>> Sixth plate         2-3/4" x 3-1/4"     198 x 234
>> Ninth plate        2" x 2-1/2"         144 x 180
>> Sixteenth plate     1-3/8" x 1-5/8"     99 x 117
>> 
>> Its like translating the bible from Greek instead of Hebrew. Or whatever 
>> it
>> was originally written in.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - - from my iRabs.
>> Mark Rabiner
>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Mark William Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>>> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 17:11:27 -0400
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Conversation: [Leica] Daguerreotype Plate Sizes at 72 dpi
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Daguerreotype Plate Sizes at 72 dpi
>>> 
>>> Not 32 but 28
>>> Conversion table
>>> DPI
>>> (dot/in)    dpcm (dot/cm)    Pitch (?m/dot)
>>> 72             28                              350
>>> 
>>> " There are some ongoing efforts to abandon DPI in favour of metrication,
>>> giving the inter-dot spacing in dots per centimetre (dpcm) or micrometres
>>> (?m).[5][6] A resolution of 72 DPI for example equals a resolution of 
>>> about
>>> 28
>>> dpcm or an inter-dot spacing of about 350 ?m."
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - - from my iRabs.
>>> Mark Rabiner
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> From: Philippe Amard <philippe.amard at sfr.fr>
>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 22:52:22 +0200 (CEST)
>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Daguerreotype Plate Sizes at 72 dpi
>>>> 
>>>> Are you sure the unit used then was the inch?
>> 
>> 
>> I'm sure the photos will be
>>>> better if you use cms
>> 
>> 
>> ;-)
>> 
>> 
>> Nice idea about the format, unsure about the
>>>> pixel count though.
>> 
>> 
>> AMiti?s
>> Philippe
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> ========================================
>> 
>> Message du : 10/07/2012
>>>> 22:04
>> De : "Mark Rabiner " <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>> A : "Leica Users Group"
>>>> <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Copie ? :
>> Sujet : [Leica] Daguerreotype Plate Sizes at
>>>> 72 dpi
>> 
>> 
>>  Whole plate        6-1/2" x 8-1/2"     468 x 612 pixels
>> Half plate
>>>> 4-1/4" x 5-1/2"     306 x 396
>> Quarter plate     3-1/4" x 4-1/4"     234 x
>>>> 306
>> Sixth plate         2-3/4" x 3-1/4"     198 x 234
>> Ninth plate        2" x
>>>> 2-1/2"         144 x 180
>> Sixteenth plate     1-3/8" x 1-5/8"     99 x 117
>> 
>> I
>>>> worked the math on these plates sizes into pixels.
>> 
>> I plan on working up some
>>>> images at these sizes which perhaps will have some
>> resonance in our photo
>>>> DNA.
>> 
>> Sometimes I  plan on just entering the inch sizes at whatever
>>>> resolution
>>>> I'm
>> using on the print. As they are a bit small for the screen even.
>> I really
>>>> don't know. Maybe I'll find myself using these all the time. Or
>> hardly ever.
>>>> But It was fun doing it.
>> 
>> 
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