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Subject: [Leica] (Link) Interview with Stefan Daniel
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 15:57:08 -0400

My motto and what I've learned in life is this:

It's always what you don't think!
(and you can quote me on that one)

The button you think you'll never press might turn out to be your favorite
button.

- - from my iRabs.
Mark Rabiner
http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/


> From: Mark William Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 15:51:49 -0400
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] (Link) Interview with Stefan Daniel
> 
> I suspect that the M10 which you're going to love using and be a boom to
> your work is going to have a few buttons on it which you're not going to
> bother pressing. Just like a Betamax.
> 
> - - from my iRabs.
> Mark Rabiner
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/
> 
> 
>> From: Tina Manley <images at comporium.net>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2012 14:55:06 -0400
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] (Link) Interview with Stefan Daniel
>> 
>> If a Leica M ever has live view or video, it will not be an M that I want.
>>  Bells and whistles that are not needed for a digital rangefinder.
>> 
>> Tina
>> 
>> On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 2:50 PM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> And freaking video in the same breath!
>>> I used live view on my DSLR extensively for landscapes. It was wonderful!
>>> Throw on a tilt/shift lens, turn on live view that shows what you are
>>> really getting when you stop down, watch it with a Hoodman loupe as you
>>> fiddle with tilt and aperture until it is sharp as a tack and BOOM, what
>>> you see is what you got! Loved it.
>>> But not for my Leica. Since no tilt shift, all I need is an accurate 
>>> hyper
>>> focal scale and I'm there. And as for movies?? Well I'll leave that to
>>> others to decide...
>>> Sent from my living room where it's 100deg outside, 80 degrees inside, 
>>> but
>>> wrapped in a perpetual ice wrap which makes it like Heaven!!
>>> Bob
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I don't understand this focus on Live View. That's a key advantage with
>>>> CMOS
>>>> in an M10? I'd call it a detriment not an asset! Leica's going to sell
>>> more
>>>> cameras because of this? Maybe not to the right people. I'm just not
>>>> looking
>>>> forward to seeing people holding eight thousand dollar M10's at full 
>>>> arms
>>>> lengh in front of them as they take snap shots in Times Square.  From an
>>>> image standpoint to me that just looks bad.
>>>> A kind of thing getting Barnack rolling over in his grave.
>>>> On my camera a D700 DSLR the Live View option slows down the operation 
>>>> of
>>>> the camera is widely ignored by me and its other owners after trying it
>>> for
>>>> a minute.
>>>> I just give the mass public credit for knowing that when you buy a hand
>>>> constructed German camera for thousands of dollars Its for putting up to
>>>> your face not holding out like an offering like using a cell phone 
>>>> camera
>>>> or
>>>> cheap point and shoot. I don't see people with big fat DSLR's which have
>>>> now
>>>> the option now using it that way.
>>>> Perhaps Leica should give its buyers a German chocolate bar to every
>>>> customer who allows them to disable that feature. Perhaps place a little
>>>> leaflet in the box for the unboxing where they can read the history of
>>> the
>>>> Leica M for mechanical rangefinder mechanism working with triangulation
>>> to
>>>> give you a focus many times more accurate than a groundglass if there is
>>>> one.
>>>> It should not be circumvented so lightly.
>>>> Either is the viewfinder mechanism with its automatic frame lines.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> - - from my iRabs.
>>>> Mark Rabiner
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
>>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2012 22:16:36 -0700
>>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] (Link) Interview with Stefan Daniel
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for sharing. It's confirming what we know....
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 7:14 PM, John McMaster <john at 
>>>>> chiaroscuro.co.nz
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> http://the.me/interview-with-stefan-daniel-leica-director-product-management
>>>>>> -next-target-non-leica-users/
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> john
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
>>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Bob Adler
>>> http://www.rgaphoto.com
>>> 
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>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Tina Manley, ASMP
>> www.tinamanley.com
>> 
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