[Leica] Leica M lenses on the Fuji X-Pro 1

[john at chiaroscuro.co.nz (John McMaster)]

Off the top of my head, he took high ASA pictures into LAB colour and looked
at them. I will not go into more detail as it is a copyrighted site ;-)

john

-----Original Message-----


WHat do you mean by "similar treatment?"

In any case, it stands to reason that X-Pro1 would have better noise at high
ISO than M9.

Since I can probably wait until next year (and honestly, even further out,
if my eyes can "hold out"), hopefully by then clean ISO without much noise
reduction is possible at ISO3200/6400. Here's hoping.

On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 1:22 PM, John McMaster
<john at chiaroscuro.co.nz>wrote:

> Sean Reid (pay-for site) compared X-100, X-Pro1, M9 and MM with 
> similar treatment.
>
> john
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> One camera system can be judged as nosier than anther but that's just 
> how the image was handled. One can be temped to over sharpen just as 
> one can be temped to anti noise and sometimes get away with it.
> But in this case we're looking at full rez file so we can see easier 
> whats been done with it. And in this case too much. Was it Fuji that 
> did it not the photographer? So this was a jpeg? In the interface 
> there was no menu which said how much sharpening? I bet there was. And 
> I bet it was turned on way too high. It would need perhaps to be set to
"low" or "off".
> And sharpen to taste later.
>
> Its just darned hard to judge a camera systems sharpness and noise 
> because a tasteful amount is put into the final image by the 
> photographer. And that taste can vary.
>
> - - from my iRabs.
> Mark Rabiner
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/
>
>
> >
> > That is pretty much how Sean Reid analysed it, Fuji are dropping a 
> > lot of detail information to reduce noise at high ASA.
> >
> > john
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> >
> > To me it looks anti noised a bit too much. In other worlds it would 
> > look better noisier. To me its the analog equivalent of putting 
> > tissue or dirty saran wrap in front of an enlarging lens. You just 
> > don't ever want to do that. You want to see the real grain which is 
> > there becuae out of that grain comes the image. Less grain less 
> > information which is there; we are just now allowed to see it.
> > In digital its not quite the same. We can anti  noise the noise not 
> > grain just a tad to take some of the edgy sandpaper ness off until 
> > it gets to be too much and we are cut off from the information we 
> > should be seeing in the image. And that in terms of photography from 
> > both the craft and art sake: a big no no.
> > It's human nature to want to see all the detail  that was there in 
> > the original file rather than to have it smoothed over on us into 
> > jelly bean sauce.
> > Odds are we'd not be viewing the image at one to one anyway.
> >
> > - - from my iRabs.
> > Mark Rabiner
> > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/
> >
> >
> >> From: Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at me.com>
> >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 05:51:03 +0100
> >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica M lenses on the Fuji X-Pro 1
> >>
> >> Richard
> >>
> >> I have uploaded a 6400iso image at
> >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gwpics/1X--1075.jpg.html. It is at 
> >> full resolution. It is a little more noisy than I would normally 
> >> anticipate but I suspect that this is due to the heavy red lighting 
> >> chosen by the lighting engineer for this particular gig. All 
> >> information is in the usual place in the gallery.
> >>
> >> Gerry
> >