Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/06/13
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Sean Reid (pay-for site) compared X-100, X-Pro1, M9 and MM with similar treatment. john -----Original Message----- One camera system can be judged as nosier than anther but that's just how the image was handled. One can be temped to over sharpen just as one can be temped to anti noise and sometimes get away with it. But in this case we're looking at full rez file so we can see easier whats been done with it. And in this case too much. Was it Fuji that did it not the photographer? So this was a jpeg? In the interface there was no menu which said how much sharpening? I bet there was. And I bet it was turned on way too high. It would need perhaps to be set to "low" or "off". And sharpen to taste later. Its just darned hard to judge a camera systems sharpness and noise because a tasteful amount is put into the final image by the photographer. And that taste can vary. - - from my iRabs. Mark Rabiner http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/ > > That is pretty much how Sean Reid analysed it, Fuji are dropping a lot > of detail information to reduce noise at high ASA. > > john > > -----Original Message----- > > To me it looks anti noised a bit too much. In other worlds it would > look better noisier. To me its the analog equivalent of putting tissue > or dirty saran wrap in front of an enlarging lens. You just don't ever > want to do that. You want to see the real grain which is there becuae > out of that grain comes the image. Less grain less information which > is there; we are just now allowed to see it. > In digital its not quite the same. We can anti noise the noise not > grain just a tad to take some of the edgy sandpaper ness off until it > gets to be too much and we are cut off from the information we should > be seeing in the image. And that in terms of photography from both the > craft and art sake: a big no no. > It's human nature to want to see all the detail that was there in the > original file rather than to have it smoothed over on us into jelly > bean sauce. > Odds are we'd not be viewing the image at one to one anyway. > > - - from my iRabs. > Mark Rabiner > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/ > > >> From: Gerry Walden <gerry.walden at me.com> >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 05:51:03 +0100 >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] Leica M lenses on the Fuji X-Pro 1 >> >> Richard >> >> I have uploaded a 6400iso image at >> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gwpics/1X--1075.jpg.html. It is at >> full resolution. It is a little more noisy than I would normally >> anticipate but I suspect that this is due to the heavy red lighting >> chosen by the lighting engineer for this particular gig. All >> information is in the usual place in the gallery. >> >> Gerry > >