Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2012/05/30

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Subject: [Leica] Endgadget on the MM
From: richard at richardmanphoto.com (Richard Man)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 14:21:07 -0700
References: <CAF8hL-HmTDiKibEGGxGD5Ox=fjD4yguVrB-ST_4cmv01i36Vqw@mail.gmail.com> <CBEC04A0.1EEE4%mark@rabinergroup.com>

If the M9 is the last color digital M (i.e. no point in making new film M
after the MP and M7), then the MM makes sense.

Or if the MM cost $5000 at most.

Since neither is true, it makes no sense, as even if the M10 will only come
out in 2013 (and who knows, may be it will be here by end of 2012), it will
almost certainly have at least 24 MP, clean ISO 6400 (because these two
features are no longer state of the art latest tech) and likely stay around
the $7000-$10000 price mark (otherwise, they will have to maintain the M9P
line) at at that spec, the M10 converted B&W could not be far off from the
MM. No doubt some purists will want the MM for its acuity but as Henri
says, "Sharpness is a Bourgeois Concept."

On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 2:08 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
wrote:

> What's on my mind is the people who would buy the Leica M9 Monochrom would
> be who?
> What's on my mind is the state of black and white image making after a
> decade of people shooting digital many of them like myself who were black
> and white specialists in film didn't feel the urge to specialize in black
> and white in digital.
>
> With Erwin mentioning stuff like the new sensor on the M9 will be CMOS it
> appears that the way long overdue sensor for the M9 is not a permeant
> invisible dream.:
> "This intention has been stated several times by high-ranking Leica
> officials and during the Berlin interview sessions Mr. Kaufmann made hardly
> disguised remarks in this direction."
>
> So a new sensor competitive with the best from Canon and Nikon is not a fig
> Newton of someone else's imagination.
> Its history which just hasn't gotten around to happening yet.
>
> You can have that kind of power ahead of time if you can get an M9
> Monochrom.
> And feel what its like to shoot like you did in the 1990's.
> When filters  meant something.
> If I was a few notches higher in the dead presidents deparment I'd
> certainly
> get one.
> But if I had the cash in pocket I'd let it sit and fester till the M9 goes
> CMOS.
>
>
>
> - - from my iRabs.
> Mark Rabiner
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/springdays/
>
>
>
>
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// richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>


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