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Subject: [Leica] 50AA: What does it mean for film users?
From: dstella1 at ameritech.net (Dante Stella)
Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 17:11:22 -0400
References: <031701cd3a93$b81db2d0$28591870$@earthlink.net> <CAF8hL-HrT=Dq_JCnUp7J=PXdhV=Gx5C-KiR_Twhnh5bHfHUG_w@mail.gmail.com> <5D6E35A8-580C-40F0-B095-5ED7A3B812A7@mac.com> <42E23C78-0FA5-4F1C-9085-7A18A582DB78@frozenlight.eu> <CABXy404hL9j0Bjf-csESk+vN23Nz-UKbJNiRaOttgruY5ULJbw@mail.gmail.com>

Equivalent, at most, to around 28 megapixels. Puts' tests show that the M9 
resolves ~82% of the theoretical max of an 18mp sensor in each direction. 
Hence, your maximum theoretical increase in MP yield is in the neighborhood 
of 1.5. In theory, with high-contrast black-and-white targets.  

Dante

On May 25, 2012, at 3:28 PM, Ken Iisaka <ken at iisaka.com> wrote:

> Not necessarily. The high sensitivity of the MM body at ISO320 means that
> it is quite possible to use a shutter speed as fast as 1/2000 at 5.6
> outdoors with no tripod. And don't forget, MM's sensor is equivalent to a
> 36MP Bayer sensor. I'm sure that an S2 with a 70mm lens can produce an
> equally spectacular result, but the latter weighs and costs a lot more than
> the MM/APO50 combo. Also, 1/500 at 8.0 (for the equivalent DoF) at ISO 160
> on an S2 is riskier if handheld, too.
> 
> While I do want an S2 for color work, but for BW, MM with APO50 is a very
> compelling alternative to S2/70 at half the cost and weight. However, one
> S2 with a few lenses is cheaper than an MM, M9, APO 50, and a couple of APO
> lenses.
> 
> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Nathan Wajsman <photo at 
> frozenlight.eu>wrote:
> 
>> Yeah, but if I have to use a heavy tripod, then I might as well put a
>> medium or large format camera on it, it will blow any 35mm out of the 
>> water.
>> 
>> I think the excellence of Leica lenses lies less in absolute resolution
>> (how many of you walk around with tripods) and more in the high degree of
>> corrections of optical faults, flare resistance, absence of colour 
>> fringing
>> etc.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Nathan
>> 
>> Nathan Wajsman
>> Alicante, Spain
>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
>> 
>> 
>> YNWA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 25, 2012, at 7:34 PM, Chris Williams wrote:
>> 
>>> Ha, here's where Tech Pan prices rise to $100 a roll. If you can afford
>> a $7K 50/f2, you can afford a few rolls.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Chris Williams
>>> www.zoeicaimages.net
>>> www.rebirthworkshops.com
>>> 504-231-6261
>>> New Orleans, LA
>>> zoeica at mac.com
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 25, 2012, at 12:32 PM, Richard Man wrote:
>>> 
>>>> ISO 5 film on a heavy duty tripod?!
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:30 AM, Frank Filippone <red735i at 
>>>> earthlink.net
>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> There are some reports that the lens has more resolution than an M9 or
>> M9m.
>>>>> While this may indicate a future higher resolution digi-M, it also
>> means
>>>>> that the lens is overkill on an M9/M9m.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Leica is not stupid...
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is there some "advantage" for film users to have this lens in their
>>>>> arsenal?
>>>>> Is this the Holy Grail of film lenses?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is there a film in production that can support the 50AA resolution?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Frank Filippone
>>>>> 
>>>>> Red735i at earthlink.net
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Leica Users Group.
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>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
>>>> 
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> 
> 
> 
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