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Subject: [Leica] Expertly done colored version of the famous B&S photos
From: tedgrant at shaw.ca (tedgrant at shaw.ca)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2012 16:23:59 -0800
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Well you can make that +2... they are wrong and prove me right once again.. 
So here I go:-)

>>>"When you photograph people in colour; you photograph their clothes. But
when you photograph people in B&W you photograph their souls'!"<<<<

In the picture of the Monk in flames in Saigon in B&W you see him in a 
stronger fashion than in colour. In colour your eyes go right to the flames 
and the bright blue car in bkgrd! Then you start looking for or what maybe 
the human engulfed in flames. It's the content that matters because it's a 
human being first and everything else is after the fact. Colour no matter 
how extremely well done, eliminates the impact of the scene photo after 
photo! Certainly in varying degrees. Or it takes your eyes away from the 
main body of the photo.

The famous photo by Eddie Adams of the VC being shot through the head! Same 
thing.... the power is in the B&W! Why? Because we as humans have been 
watching colour TV, films, magazines and newspapers for so many years right 
there in our family or living rooms. Have or are slowly becoming to some 
degree immune to violent scenes in colour! It seems to have a "Hollywood 
fix" to it and it isn't real.

Look at any of these original photos in B&W, there is a greater intensity 
about the original photo without the colour which "softens the effect" of 
whatever is going on! It's the colours throwing off our reading the content. 
The WW2 KISS photo by Alfred Eisenstaedt. In colour it just looks like a 
Hollywood scene or some kind of newspaper set-up. The colour eliminates the 
historical aspects of the time. For me it takes away the reality of the 
moment.

"WORLD'S HIGHEST STANDARD OF LIVING"
In B&W it holds the visual effect right there in your face of these 
unfortunate people so strongly, it's a photo you feel the tragic scene and 
situation without question! It feels real looking!

"COLOUR?"
It completely destroys the downtrodden feeling, the people don't look like 
they are a starving group of folks endangered due to the economic situation 
of those times. Once again colour takes away a feeling of the historical 
effects.

Anyway I bet more of the older crew members who grew up with the incredible 
B&W photography of LIFE, LOOK, DER STERN, PARIS MATCH and others, will have 
a greater feeling for what I'm saying. I have absolutely no fault with the 
incredible talent illustrated by this artist. But it just doesn't do one 
whit of a thing for any of the photos in a reality sense, my 2 cents!

But for sure, this would be one incredible topic for a group discussion 
seated at a round table a beer in hand.:-) Oh yeah and a plate of munchies! 
:-)

cheers,
Dr. ted


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nathan Wajsman" <photo at frozenlight.eu>
To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2012 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Leica] Expertly done colored version of the famous B&S photos


> +1
>
> On 19 Jan, 2012, at 21:08 , Tina Manley wrote:
>
>> I totally disagree with the blog.  The colorized photos look like
>> snapshots.  The B&W look like history.  Maybe because I'm an OLD person.
>>
>> Tina
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Richard Man 
>> <richard at richardmanphoto.com>wrote:
>>
>>> For the record, I am "Tri-X all the way," but this is interesting:
>>>
>>> http://gizmodo.com/color/
>>>
>>> There is another series where the human figures were removed from the
>>> iconic photos.
>>> --
>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Leica Users Group.
>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Tina Manley, ASMP



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