Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/12/27

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Subject: [Leica] photoshop-vs-lightroom
From: rgacpa at gmail.com (Bob Adler)
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 12:04:12 -0800
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Bob Adler
http://www.rgaphoto.com

On Dec 27, 2011, at 10:47 AM, Jean-Michel Mertz <j2m46 at hotmail.fr> wrote:

> 
> I can only agree with you, Nathan, LR, which I use, is a tool and should 
> be considered as such, as a tool, the object of my interest being picture 
> taking. No LR will ever be able to improve what I have not succeeded in 
> translating from the real world. Granted, there are adjustments to be made 
> but I believe it is image making that is the stuff we are working on. I'm 
> sometimes under the impression that LR or PS tend to replace the 
> photographer! Jean-Michel > From: photo at frozenlight.eu
>> Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 06:44:43 +0100
>> To: lug at leica-users.org
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] photoshop-vs-lightroom
>> 
>> I guess then I am a low-level point-and-shooter, because I am perfectly 
>> happy with the adjustments I make in LR: converting from RAW, cropping, 
>> spotting if needed, levels, saturation, contrast, sharpening if needed, 
>> conversion to B&W with superb tone controls. I am not a Photoshop artist 
>> but a photographer. I am quite happy to restrict myself to the 
>> adjustments that correspond to what I used to do in the darkroom, and 
>> this is where LR shines. All that stuff with layers and liquify filters 
>> and I don't know what is totally unnecessary for me.
>> 
>> The only of the above mentioned activities at which Photoshop is better 
>> than Lightroom is spotting. For that reason, I still have PS CS 3 which I 
>> use on my film scans, since they invariably need a lot more spotting than 
>> digital images.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Nathan
>> 
>> Nathan Wajsman
>> Alicante, Spain
>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>> Blog: http://nathansmusings.wordpress.com/
>> 
>> 
>> YNWA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Dec 26, 2011, at 11:35 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>> 
>>> People who do this - Use Photoshop for many of their images after getting
>>> them in Lightroom or whatever I have no issue with. I think that should 
>>> be
>>> clear by now. No problem of course with Tina's or Georges workflows.
>>> I do have a bit of a problem with the idea that Lightroom is all you need
>>> after you buy your camera to digitally deal with your pix.
>>> Unless we are dealing with the whole thing on a pretty low level like 
>>> point
>>> and shoot users.
>>> And I'd hope people with Leica sensibilities are not dealing on that low 
>>> of
>>> a level.  3 or 4 grand for a lens why not make a commitment to the
>>> photograph you make with it?
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> Mark R.
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/winterdays/
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> From: Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com>
>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2011 12:47:01 -0800
>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] photoshop-vs-lightroom
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Mark, yes, ACR has exactly the same engine as the develop module as
>>>> Lightroom. I think I mentioned it a few times.
>>>> 
>>>> My typical workflow is to use LR to catalog and browse the images, do 
>>>> most
>>>> of the processing work in LR, and use PS5 for certain images. I have a
>>>> couple killer plugin from George DeWolfe that runs under PS5 only and 
>>>> most
>>>> of my "final" images go through them.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -- 
>>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
>>>> 
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In reply to: Message from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] photoshop-vs-lightroom)
Message from photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman) ([Leica] photoshop-vs-lightroom)
Message from j2m46 at hotmail.fr (Jean-Michel Mertz) ([Leica] photoshop-vs-lightroom)