Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/10/28

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Subject: [Leica] New S lens
From: benedenia at gmail.com (Marty Deveney)
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 10:38:40 +1030
References: <CCCD218801894C079197D17A62714BBD@jimnichols> <CAD0B9EE.1611A%mark@rabinergroup.com>

And the Pentax 43 is awesome, but I don't think that has much to do
with it being a 43mm lens (same for their 31 and 77 lenses, which
unfortunately were never made in Leica fit).

Marty


On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 10:28 AM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> 
wrote:
> Pentax was also the company who finally came out with a 43mm lens a premium
> one and with a Leica mount.
> But at one point I read that the diagonal rule for normal is a bit
> arbitrary.
>
> --
> Mark R.
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>
>
>> From: Jim Nichols <jhnichols at lighttube.net>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 14:25:07 -0500
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] New S lens
>>
>> Yep, I have a 55/1.8 Takumar that was a standard for the Spotmatic of the
>> 60s. ?This just happens to be one of the better kit lenses of its day. ?To
>> simulate it for my Oly 4/3 bodies, I bought a 28mm Elmarit-R (56mm
>> equivalent), which is a little difficult to focus, but works great 
>> outdoors
>> in hyperfocal mode.
>>
>> Jim Nichols
>> Tullahoma, TN USA
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Henning Wulff" <henningw at archiphoto.com>
>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2011 2:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] New S lens
>>
>>
>>> Well, 55mm and 57mm lenses used to be called and sold as 'normal' lenses
>>> for 35mm SLR's in the 60's. The S2's 70 is right in line with those.
>>>
>>> 'Normal' is about as rigidly defined as a 'glass' of beer, except with
>>> beer you mostly get less than anticipated and with lenses you usually get
>>> more (focal length) than anticipated.
>>>
>>> Henning
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2011-10-27, at 7:45 PM, Marty Deveney wrote:
>>>
>>>> It has an ?84?, 74?, 53? (diagonal, horizontal, vertical) angle of
>>>> view, the same as a 24 mm lens on a 24x36mm frame.
>>>>
>>>> The roadmapped but unannounced 24/2.8 for the S2 will be very
>>>> interesting.
>>>>
>>>> I agree that the 70 is far from normal.
>>>>
>>>> Marty
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Normal for the S2 format by the way is 54mm's.
>>>>> Leica is calling their "normal' a 70 which makes you think the sensor 
>>>>> is
>>>>> that big; it ain't.
>>>>> You cant blame them for ?NOT coming out with a 55mm lens and calling it
>>>>> a
>>>>> normal nobody would think it was medium format. Yet it really is.
>>>>> The problem is what we think a 35mm full frame or film is is not.
>>>>> Its not 50. Its really 43.
>>>>> And 55 really is a full jump up from 43.
>>>>> But 55 from 50 is negligible.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just say that because 30 is way wider than a 70. Which makes you 
>>>>> think
>>>>> its
>>>>> super wide.
>>>>> But 30 is so than from a 55.
>>>>> Perhaps someone can do a comparative angle of view to see how that
>>>>> compares
>>>>> to what we are familiar with in 35mm photography.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Mark R.
>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Gerry Walden <gwpics at me.com>
>>>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:27:40 +0100
>>>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>>> Subject: [Leica] New S lens
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This has just been posted on the BJP site:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.bjp-online.com/british-journal-of-photography/news/2120595/leic
>>>>>> a-un
>>>>>> veils-30mm-lens-syte
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gerry
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gerry Walden LRPS
>>>>>> +44 (0)23 8046 3076 (Office)
>>>>>> +44 (0)797 287 7932 (Mobile)
>>>>>> Web: www.gwpics.com
>>>>>> Blog: www.gerrywalden.wordpress.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>> Henning Wulff
>>> henningw at archiphoto.com
>>>
>>>
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