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Subject: [Leica] Canon 1D X -- the real marker to the end of the mega-pixel wars?
From: rgacpa at gmail.com (Robert G Adler)
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 14:04:23 -0700
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It sure looks a lot bigger than a Cambodia, Arca or Alpa to me because of 
those huge lenses!!

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On Oct 19, 2011, at 1:44 PM, Richard Man <richard at richardmanphoto.com> 
wrote:

> It's another way to separate a photographer and the money they don't have
> :-)
> 
> http://www.hartblei.de/en/hartbleicam2.htm
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> What's an HCam?
>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Richard Man
>> <richard at richardmanphoto.com>wrote:
>> 
>>> Honestly, this is why the HCam sounds so appealing too if one is
>> interested
>>> in the shift and tilt. You can do that with a Cambo or Arca, but they are
>>> bigger...
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Robert Adler <rgacpa at gmail.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi George,
>>>> 
>>>> You don't place the GG on the shimmed back holder. The GG has it's own
>>>> holder that fits to the back of the camera just like the DB holder.
>>>> 
>>>> It is not easy to focus properly with the GG holder; I primarily use it
>>> for
>>>> framing and ensuring my polarizing filter is positioned where I want
>> it.
>>>> 
>>>> I have a Leica Distometer to find the closest distance when I'm not
>> using
>>>> tilt. I did some work to find out what the best f-stop was to use to
>> get
>>>> the
>>>> greatest hyperfocal distance. So at f/11.3 I can get from about 3m to
>>>> infinity in focus. If my distometer says the closest object in my frame
>>> is
>>>>> = 3m, I'm all set. If closer, I can use focus bracketing. This is for
>>> the
>>>> 35mm.
>>>> 
>>>> Haven't tested the 80mm yet as I tend to use tilt with it (it is the
>>>> shortest lens for which tilt is available on the Alpa system). I need
>> to
>>> do
>>>> some testing with it not only to get the right hyperfocal distances at
>>> the
>>>> best f/stop but also to see how I far I can close down to get more of
>> the
>>>> Scheimpflug hyperfocal plane in focus.
>>>> 
>>>> This digital MF is a whole new ball of wax for most (with tech cams).
>>> Great
>>>> results (IMO) once you get it all figured out.
>>>> 
>>>> Probably much more than you ever wanted to know...
>>>> Best,
>>>> Bob
>>>> On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 9:00 AM, George Lottermoser <imagist3 at mac.com
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 18, 2011, at 11:38 PM, Bob Adler wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> You are correct of course. The holder for my back, on the Alpa
>>> system,
>>>>> comes with gaskets that are between .01 and .05mm, in .01mm
>> increments.
>>>> You
>>>>> have to calibrate your back, as in this video:
>>>>>> http://www.optechsdigital.com/Videos.html
>>>>>> Scroll down to the three videos under Shimming the Alpa.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So when I did it to my system, .01mm made all the difference.
>> Pretty
>>>>> sensitive!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Interesting.
>>>>> It's unclear to me where the ground glass comes into play.
>>>>> If you've shimmed for the sensor
>>>>> and placed the ground glass on that same adapter
>>>>> you've also shimmed the ground glass
>>>>> (or am I missing something?)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> George Lottermoser
>>>>> george at imagist.com
>>>>> http://www.imagist.com
>>>>> http://www.imagist.com/blog
>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/imagist
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Bob Adler
>>>> Palo Alto, CA
>>>> http://www.rgaphoto.com
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> Bob Adler
>> Palo Alto, CA
>> http://www.rgaphoto.com
>> 
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>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> // richard <http://www.richardmanphoto.com>
> 
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