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Subject: [Leica] Plagarism
From: images at comporium.net (Tina Manley)
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 14:21:04 -0400
References: <CA+yJO1DxYr3dRVXQDsUwkPB3204RgE2Qmh_yej9ezX7auz1qFQ@mail.gmail.com> <5F214B67-77AB-4753-B590-1E8D0759FCEB@sfr.fr>

Being influenced by another artist is one thing, but this is blatant
copying.  It's as if he projected the photos onto canvas and traced over
them.  His Asia "collection" exactly mimics the photographer's Asia
collection of photos.  There is no creativity involved at all, and, even
worse, no credit given to the original artist whose work is being copied.
 Dylan claims in the interview that he paints from real life, not
photographs.  That is obviously a lie.

Tina

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 2:05 PM, philippe.amard <philippe.amard at 
sfr.fr>wrote:

> Tina,
>
> I can't see where the problem lies in fact - a photo is a photo alright,
> and a painting is a painting alright too - the art is different, the
> crafting is also different - I dk if it makes sense to anyone, but me...
> Even though I bet those of us photogs who've used brushes in their lives
> might concur.
>
> Most painters have been using photos or photographic techniques over the
> years - from the Dutch masters to the super/hyper-realists.
> Hockney also did both.
> Most photogs have been influenced by painters, is that a problem?
> I don't know a good photog who can disclaim this - HCB was so strict on
> composition, inherited from, guess what ...
>
> For me it all boils down to: As a viewer, do I like it, or not? whatever
> the gear.
>
> In the meantime, Van Gogh has now been killed by teenagers. A sign of the
> times?
>
> Bien cordialement de Metz
> Philippe
>
>
> Le 19 oct. 11 ? 16:52, Tina Manley a ?crit :
>
>  LUG:
>>
>> By Bob Dylan, no less:
>>
>> http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.**com/2011/09/26/questions-**
>> raised-about-dylan-show-at-**gagosian/?ref=artsf<http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/26/questions-raised-about-dylan-show-at-gagosian/?ref=artsf>
>>
>> The other examples I've seen on the internet are exact copies of
>> photographs, including those by Henri Cartier-Bresson.
>>
>> I have had several artists request to use my photos for their paintings.
>>  I
>> always give permission with the qualification that they must include a
>> notice that the painting is based on a photo copyrighted by Tina Manley.
>> Looks like Dylan failed to ask permission or even acknowledge that he uses
>> photographs!
>>
>> Tina
>>
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