Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/08/14
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Doug I have done almost no spraying in that sense. Holding the button down. I've always like to pick my moments. Though sometimes I'll do several very fast exposures its me always making them. My index figure I guess can twitch fast. I'm not just holding the button down. If that's all spray and pray means than I'm not at odds with it but I think when the idiom is used they are most often also talking about shooters who just make a ton of shots in a given situation. In other words pros. Or very serious shooters. I'm sure like yourself. Never have I ever heard a photographer come back from a shoot and look at the take and go "I wish is shot less pictures". All I've ever seen and experienced was " I wish I shot a few more". "film is cheap" not really true but not a bad mindset to have taken. I have shot next to people, like Sal, who are in a different league of shooting than what I've been though in my professional lifetime. They are doing stuff I'm maybe not doing. They say the best dupe is a not dupe. Its a shot you took at the time. This comes from making a lot of shots for a subject. - a burst would in effect give you that. Back ups. If a slide or neg gets scratched maybe the one taken a millisecond later would do. Maybe that's why those guys did that. Mainly when the level of shooting goes up the dilatants get self righteous. This has happened more with digital. We have more people playing with cameras. They don't want to deal with it too much. So they try to put serious shooters on the defensive. That's what I got from this. I've really cant remember people holding the button down like that shooting next to me. It might be un nerving. They have auto bracket now in all kinds of modes. I don't go there. I certainly shoot raw. -- Mark R. > From: Doug Herr <wildlightphoto at earthlink.net> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2011 11:45:12 -0700 (GMT-07:00) > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: Re: [Leica] Brian's Presentation > > Mark Rabiner wrote: > >> The term "spray and pray" is idiotic. > > Spray and pray was the mantra of many wildlife photographers long before > digital (and is even more so now). I recall a discussion on this list of > this > subject, how was I going to get the peak action of a leopard chasing a > gazelle > with my SL when in the F5 a roll of film was exposed in ten seconds and the > camera had motorized rewind & automatic film loading so it would be ready > for > the next 36 exposures within seconds. > > Last fall while photographing bears another photographer left his camera > and > flash on burst mode... he made ten exposures for every one of mine (he also > hacked bushes for a better view and got within two meters of the mother > bear > for his photos). An infinite number of DSLR users with an infinite supply > of > memory cards sooner or later will produce a good photo. > > Doug Herr > Birdman of Sacramento > http://www.wildlightphoto.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information