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Subject: [Leica] Luis and Steve
From: chris at chriscrawfordphoto.com (Chris Crawford)
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 02:44:59 -0400

Why is it not possible for Greece? Id the country just too poor in
comparison to the other EU countries? I know that Spain is poorer than the
richest EU countries, like Germany and France, but it seems wealthier than
Greece.


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On 7/19/11 1:50 AM, "Nathan Wajsman" <photo at frozenlight.eu> wrote:

> Hi Jayanand,
> 
> I second your high opinion of Lluis's book. I will just address the 
> economic
> issue you raise. The protests were not a political movement in the 
> traditional
> strength which was at the time seen as a strength but it is now clear that
> without a coherent political programme, providing answers to questions 
> such as
> the ones you raise, the movement is in the process of fizzling out. As 
> Lluis
> himself noted, towards the end of the sit-ins there were increasingly just
> various bums and hoodlums rather than the idealists of the early days. If 
> you
> asked, you would get many different answers.
> 
> Also, I must say that the fundamental problem in Spain is not the debt 
> (much
> lower as % of GDP than Italy or Greece) but anemic growth. So what is 
> needed
> more than anything else are reforms of the economy to make it more
> competitive, allowing the country to grow its way out of trouble. In the 
> case
> of Spain it is possible. Difficult, but possible. In the case of Greece it 
> is
> not.
> 
> Cheers,
> Nathan
> 
> Nathan Wajsman
> Alicante, Spain
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> 
> YNWA
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 19, 2011, at 4:47 AM, Jayanand Govindaraj wrote:
> 
>> Sorry - by mistake I posted this on the forum yesterday - it is about two
>> books...
>> 
>> I received two books at the same time yesterday - Luis' 'Indignats' and
>> Steve McCurry's 'The Iconic Photographs'. Both are exceptional and highly
>> recommended, and have a common thread close to my heart - in both the 
>> books
>> the central subject is human beings.
>> 
>> Luis' has really brought a book of street photographs - though I have seen
>> many of them before, their impact, taken as a whole, is considerable.
>> Beautifully and coherently done. It really brings his talent in capturing
>> human beings to the fore. Blurb seems to have improved its B&W printing as
>> well, it looks quite neutral to my eyes.
>> 
>> I just want to ask a question of Luis:
>> 
>> If, as I think is the case, Spain's long term bondage to French and German
>> Banks can only be solved by defaulting and leaving the Eurozone, because 
>> for
>> obvious reasons neither France or Germany are going to do anything to
>> constructively help Spain ahead of their own banks, what would the
>> protesters do in that case - would they want the Eurozone subsidies to
>> continue, and exist in that bondage for a generation or two, or go 
>> through a
>> period of severe transition for a possibly better life for their children?
>> It is all very well to protest, but I want to know what they are 
>> protesting
>> against.
>> 
>> On to the second book - a very apt name - iconic photographs indeed, 
>> printed
>> beautifully and LARGE, in a limited edition of 3000 copies. This 
>> magnificent
>> book is all of 20"x15" and weighs 16.2 lbs! I actually just strained my
>> shoulder trying to manhandle it onto a bookshelf! I love McCurry's work,
>> probably because it is very easy for me to culturally identify myself with
>> his work, as most of it is in our neighborhood. I bought this book because
>> it has a free signed print! When I wanted to buy one of his originals, he
>> wanted US$1500 for a 16x20 print. This book includes a free print of 
>> 18"x12"
>> size of 'Flower Seller, Dal Lake, Kashmir, 1996'. I think, despite the 
>> high
>> price of GBP160 that I paid for it, (luckily Amazon UK has free shipping 
>> to
>> India at present), the sheer quality of the printing and the original 
>> signed
>> print that you get with it, makes this book a bargain in my eyes.
>> 
>> http://www.amazon.com/Steve-McCurry-Iconic-Photographs/dp/0714856339/ref=sr_1
>> _1?ie=UTF8&qid=1310995138&sr=8-1
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Jayanand
>> 
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