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Subject: [Leica] New Leica M Stuff
From: mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 22:59:53 -0400

No you cant duck tape an M lens to a 5D! But with R glass dropping in price
if that's true you can put those on with less light leaks coming in the
cracks. As far as  I go I need to figure out how to come upon seven or eight
grand when the M9 gets to where I'd want it to be. I still have all my M
glass and would much rather be  shooting with it. Super comfortable though
with the looks of nikon glass of any generation.


Mark William Rabiner


> From: Slobodan Dimitrov <s.dimitrov at charter.net>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 18:33:34 -0700
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] New Leica M Stuff
> 
> To tell the truth, I've have been less than satisfied with the CV line. I 
> say
> this in spite of have owned a slew of their lenses.
> They are inconsistent quality wise. They are also a nostalgic attempt to
> replay the look of Nikon glass from the 70's. I didn't like the look then, 
> I
> dislike it even more now. The only time I was satisfied with the end 
> product
> from that old glass, was from a studio shoot, with massive over lighting, 
> or
> with infrared. 
> On one hand, having owned a 50 Elmar-M, I think I would really like the 
> look
> of the 21mm Super Elmar-M. On the other hand, as it's not commercially, or
> personally, viable to use the current M line with my current shooting
> practice, it's somewhat moot in even considering one.
> S.d. 
> 
> On Jun 21, 2011, at 2:37 PM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
> 
>> Its sad.
>> A brand new cutting edge Leica 21 3.4 comes out harking back to Schneider
>> Super Angulon shooting and the lug first reaction is that  it as an 
>> affront
>> or threat to their Cosina Voigtl?nder 21 they got for a couple of hundred
>> bucks with Germanic typography on the front ring. I do think that if we 
>> had
>> a windfall or otherwise had the cash on hand and we shot a lot in that 
>> focal
>> though or could and we were making more than screen shot jpegs out of the
>> results it would be a lens we would  be excited about. And certainly find 
>> to
>> be good news and not a threat to our delicate el cheapo sensibilities.
>> 
>> The CV 21 was a compact 21 with no compact alterative from Leica other 
>> than
>> trying to use an old SA or using a heavy large expensive Elmarit or
>> Summilux.
>> Well you now have that option.
>> 
>> 
>> Mark William Rabiner
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Slobodan Dimitrov <s.dimitrov at charter.net>
>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:15:11 -0700
>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] New Leica M Stuff
>>> 
>>> The new 21mm is exciting. The "new" M9-P, well, that's a real yawn!
>>> As I currently use the LTM, I wonder what the Chinese marketplace will do
>>> with
>>> that bayonet?
>>> S.d.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 21, 2011, at 11:50 AM, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>>> 
>>>> The white house photographers in the 80's most of them had over one
>>>> shoulder
>>>> an M with a 21mm SA on the other shoulder a nikon F with a 105 2.5 or 
>>>> 80 or
>>>> a few others.
>>>> A super Angulon  for them and many have been the reason to own and use a
>>>> Leica. The 21mm focal length has been basic for Leica use for many many
>>>> decades. Zone focusing. Highly corrected non distortion. In a very 
>>>> compact
>>>> unobtrusive package.
>>>> And in a Leica Solms way its back in a cutting edge version using all 
>>>> Leica
>>>> knows now about optics.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Mark William Rabiner
>>>> Photography
>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
>>>> Cars:   http://tinyurl.com/2f7ptxb
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> From: Philippe Amard <philippe.amard at sfr.fr>
>>>>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 20:41:54 +0200
>>>>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] New Leica M Stuff
>>>>> 
>>>>> whose?
>>>>> ph
>>>>> ;-)
>>>>> Le 21 juin 11 ? 20:31, mehrdad a ?crit :
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> its out!!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 11:13 AM, philippe.amard <philippe.amard at 
>>>>>> sfr.fr
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 21 is so cool - just half a 42 - you can get twice as close :-)
>>>>>>> I'd borrow a fine swiss saw and get two for the price of one at a
>>>>>>> discount
>>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/6zlkt4v
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ok I'm off
>>>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>>> ph
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Le 21 juin 11 ? 19:41, Richard Man a ?crit :
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Haven't you read Mark Rabiner's writing? 21 is like the new normal
>>>>>>>> for the
>>>>>>>> photojournalist guys. It's deadly if you are willing to go close.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Not interested in these new stuff though. Not when a Zeiss 21
>>>>>>>> Biogon can
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> have for around a grand.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Frank Filippone <red735i at 
>>>>>>>> earthlink.net
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Keep your eyes peeled on the www.Leicarumors.com  site today.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Rumor says the M9-P and the 21 F3.4 Super Elmar M  lenses will be
>>>>>>>>> announced.....
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The 21 will be very interesting.....  3x 21's in the lineup....
>>>>>>>>> WATE,
>>>>>>>>> Summilux, and Super Elmar, and 2 more in existence ( 21 ASPH and 21
>>>>>>>>> Elmarit).
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I never knew so many people choose the 21 for their Leica
>>>>>>>>> M's......  I
>>>>>>>>> thought it was primarily a specialty lens on an M....
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Frank Filippone
>>>>>>>>> Red735i at earthlink.net
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
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