Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/06/21
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Sigh. The M9-P is not a limited edition for collectors, just has some requested cosmetic updates. One dealer jumped the gun packaging it with a chrome Noctilux though. That is a handful of cameras only. I think we probably will see an M10 announcement (maybe next photokina?). Seems logical. Now at least they may survive and have the resources to actually handle that development. That and millions from Andreas Kaufmann. We should be thankful that he is apparently a passionate collector himself as well as a pretty courageous business man presumably! I'm pretty sure they won't rely on an advisory amateur CEO 'cloud' to tell them how they 'need to act or innovate' to develop that new camera though. The M9 was a low risk project with existing partners and design/components since development was concurrent with the S2. Stefan Daniel was quite open when he said that they simply did not have the capability to develop two new cameras/systems concurrently. The M8.3 idea still makes no sense to me, not that my opinion matters either but again Stefan Daniel has said it will not happen. I don't need a 21mm but the specs of the new one certainly look fine. The current Elmarit is discontinued (as was the 24). Cheers Geoff *Life's not black and white, except at both ends* http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman On 22 June 2011 07:14, Richard Man <richard at imagecraft.com> wrote: > Mark, it has been rumored for months that the new camera will not have any > new tech, regardless how much it would make sense or how much wishful > thinking there was. > > I am afraid that Leica is going back to to the "make special edition and > milk the collector's market" mindset. > > Being wildly successful with the M9 is not a surprise - whatnot with all > the > pent up demand from people just waiting for years to use their Leica lens. > The biggest surprise with the M9 was the full frame sensor, and it was as > much as a surprise as it was BECAUSE Leica had been saying it could not be > done with the current technology - well, the current technology caught up > and it could then be done. In any case, there are many areas where Leica > can > innovate and remain true to its rangefinder DNA, but Leica needs to act. > > However, I suspect that this will end up just being another peak in Leica's > history. They can continue to be successful, but they need to innovate in > the high end and get into the "mass market" with a M8.3. But Herr Kaufmann > and Herr Daniels can do no wrong right at this moment and Geoff said that > they thought something like an M8.3 is braindead. We shall see in 3 years > that how competitive the M10 will be. > > On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> > wrote: > > > The M9-P a huge disappointment because they really do need to keep moving > > in > > the design of this camera and have a sensor which competes with Canon and > > Nikon full frame instead of paying off top pros to be seen using it. > > I really thought there was big news here on that. > > But a compact 21 is pretty nice. > > > > > > Mark William Rabiner > > > > > > > > > > > From: Slobodan Dimitrov <s.dimitrov at charter.net> > > > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > > > Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:15:11 -0700 > > > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > > > Subject: Re: [Leica] New Leica M Stuff > > > > > > The new 21mm is exciting. The "new" M9-P, well, that's a real yawn! > > > As I currently use the LTM, I wonder what the Chinese marketplace will > do > > with > > > that bayonet? > > > S.d. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > > > -- > // richard <http://www.imagecraft.com/> > // icc blog: <http://imagecraft.com/blog/> > // richard's personal photo blog: <http://www.5pmlight.com> > [ For technical support on ImageCraft products, please include all previous > replies in your msgs. ] > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >