Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/05/31
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]The end product of photography is a print. Or it should be IMO. Getting from the vision to the end result requires several intermediate steps. The fact that one of these intervening steps in one of the several techniques possible to produce a print gives, in somebodies opinion, a superior potential may make it worthwhile investigating the other steps in that technique to see what is lacking if the technique does not achieve an overall superior result. Since, so far, most photographers producing prints have gone -to- digital -from- a film workflow they presumably find the results at least equal. I find them superior myself, but I haven't used more than half a dozen B&W films since the 1960s, so maybe B&W is different. OTOH sharpness is not the main thing I look at. FD On 30 May, 2011, at 22:30, Mark Rabiner wrote: > A point being that digital sharpening in all its forms wherever it creeps > in > has no correlation in the normal darkroom Photo Flo. That is no reason to > leave it out. Or soak ones Sandisk in Photo Flo. There is only so much > overlap between analog and digital photography > There is a constant wanting of people to make digital photography > correlate > with darkroom analog work. > That way we can make it look like a "real photograph". > Like if it couldn't be done in the darkroom then we should not do it sting > at our laptops doing Lightroom or Photoshop. > And that of course makes no sense at all. > > Did carbo prints try to imitate the preceding Calotypes? > Did Woodburytype prints or Albumen prints try to emulate Carbo prints? > Did dry plates dry to imitate wet plates? > Nope people moved on. new paradigm's happen just like Tsunamis. People > think everything has always been the same and they are safe and sound and > never have to change. But big changes happen. > > > > Mark > > -------------------- > Mark William Rabiner > Photography > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > mark at rabinergroup.com > Cars: http://tinyurl.com/2f7ptxb > > > > >> From: Frank Dernie <Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com> >> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 14:14:16 +0100 >> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> >> Subject: Re: [Leica] M8 Repair... Update >> >> Thanks Geoff. >> FD >> >> On 30 May, 2011, at 13:12, Geoff Hopkinson wrote: >> >>> Frank I'm assuming current Lightroom version and DNGs. >>> There are no camera specific sharpening defaults. >>> Of course users can work out pre-sets for any number of develop >>> adjustments >>> and save that as a new pre-set that they like. >>> A new default can be set via the drop down menu from Develop if desired. >>>> From Settings you can reset everything to the original defaults if >>>> wanted. >>> Sharpening is not a function of any profile either. >>> 0 in the detail slider of the sharpening menus means none, irrespective >>> of >>> any other settings >>> >>> Cheers >>> Geoff >>> >>> *Life's not black and white, except at both ends* >>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman >>> >>> >>> >>> On 30 May 2011 17:26, Frank Dernie <Frank.Dernie at btinternet.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Does anybody know if there is some default sharpening in the M8 and M9 >>>> profiles in Lightroom? >>>> Usually there is a certain amount of default sharpening in Adobe's >>>> default >>>> conversion, which they generate for each camera model supported. >>>> Normally >>>> "adding no sharpening" means adding no additional sharpening over the >>>> default, or don't they work this way any more? >>>> cheers, >>>> FD >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information