Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/05/30

[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]

Subject: [Leica] Lincoln center flowers
From: photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman)
Date: Mon, 30 May 2011 10:11:49 +0200
References: <CA085848.F731%mark@rabinergroup.com>

Just to clarify, Mark: I think you have many many fine images on the LUG 
gallery. My comments were directed specifically at the various nighttime 
flowers and tree photos, which in my opinion are not up to the standards of 
your other work. But of course, it is a matter of taste, and it is your own 
opinion that matters most.

Cheers,
Nathan

Nathan Wajsman
Alicante, Spain
http://www.frozenlight.eu
http://www.greatpix.eu
http://www.nathanfoto.com
PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog

YNWA







On May 30, 2011, at 2:08 AM, Mark Rabiner wrote:

> Sometimes I may be feeling a little low and I take a look at my LUG gallery
> layout;  like looking at a contact sheet and it gives me a boost.  In a way
> a contact sheet with lots of little pictures on it makes a  total picture 
> in
> of itself. And I like my LUG Gallery total picture. Random snaps with 
> little
> regard to composition I'm don't get from it but I'd be the last one you'd
> want to ask as  can't claim to step back from my work and  look at it as if
> it was done by somebody else. But if a week or more goes by that helps.
> I find a quick measure of the success of a shot by how many people looked 
> at
> it. The number at the bottom.
> The Lincoln Center Flowers has been looked at by 25 people over the weekend
> and that's about normal at this point so its at the front of the list of 
> all
> the shots in the gallery as it has the least clicks.
> 
> As to the randomness aspects I do shoot fast and often don't even stop
> walking when I click a shot.  The flowers though outside of Lincolns center
> shot is a result of three separate shoots on three separate days one was
> during the day. Each shoot involved about a hundred captures. So the shot
> you are seeing is in effect edited out of 300 pix. To me if its a strong
> image and I think it is much of it is because of its bench. There are 299
> shots sitting on it sipping Gater Aid who want to go in. but at this time
> only 110517_232552 is playing.
> There is  20 real strong shots which have 5 stars in them in Bridge.  A few
> I left in color.  Some are square.  Several are 1:2. Finally I had to just
> go with this one with the itching feeling that I'd change my mind soon and
> have recriminations and wish I'd gone with another one.
> Next time I look at them I have a feeling I'll be adding that shot which
> seems to be the winner now so  you all can see it and maybe even comment.
> 
> I'm happy to be able to stop down and get deep focus hand held at night for
> the first time in my life and the amazing controls I have on my black and
> white output with all the color sliders having amazing effect and the
> ability to tone and or duotone the end result.  Beats Bergs Toner any way.
> Again like dying and going to heaven.
> 
> And if the first page looks a little weak to you click on the second page.
> That would represent my best work in a sense these are the shots which got
> the most clicks by far.  But the mean being around 25o clicks.
> That of course indicates how long they've been up there as well anything
> else. As more time equals more clicks.
> Few things in my life have I been more happy about than my work on the LUG
> gallery.  I don't show people my website  as often the lug gallery gets top
> billing on all my emails which I send to new friends. I'll edit the other
> things off the list.
> 
> The reason why I will often indicate what iso a certain shot has is because
> its set at auto. Auto iso. So having set my shutter speed set to 100 and my
> f stop set to 5.6 the only variable is the iso. So where the iso "falls" to
> me has the top amount of meaning.  Though I've been experiencing with
> shooting at F8 as well as f 16 in the noon day sun as I'm getting out more.
> 
> The new thing for me though is the idea of having a shot be added to this
> "portfolio" after having shot it so recently. Normally I'd not let a shot 
> be
> put in such a context unless I'd tested it out first and seen it through a
> few peoples eyes over a period of a month or so. Let it settle and cure and
> simmer.
> Then I'd put it in the "portfolio" a stack of pix in a Box or in pages in a
> portfolio case. Or in this case an internet gallery to upload to.
> Letting people see tried and tested images is nerve wracking to me.
> But every once in a while I look at my lug gallery and a shot stands out as
> weak. So I go into delete mode in the software and thin the gallery out.
> I'd guess about 25 shots are gone now making the final effect way stronger.
> After doing that I look at the page and I like the total picture I'm seeing
> much better.
> 
> In my  first 8 or 9 years on the LUG there was no LUG GALLERY. And many
> people expressed their opinions  and rhetoric  in effect  on a blind stage.
> I had no way of knowing  what photography experience someone under their
> belt they had to back up their  contentious attitudes with.  In a "put your
> pictures where you mouth is" sense.  Now I do.
> 
> Mark
> 
> --------------------
> Mark William Rabiner
> Photography
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/
> mark at rabinergroup.com
> Cars:   http://tinyurl.com/2f7ptxb
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> From: Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com>
>> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 15:09:12 -0700
>> To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Lincoln center flowers
>> 
>> 
>> On May 29, 2011, at 1:14 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote:
>> 
>>> I write this with a certain amount of trepidation, but I can't help it...
>>> 
>>> What am I missing? Everyone goes gaga over Marc's B&W pictures of 
>>> flowers and
>>> trees and the like around Manhattan
>> 
>> 
>> I don't go gaga over them...
>> 
>> 
>>> while I just don't get it. To me, they look like random snapshots, with
>>> little regard for composition, designed to show off the camera's high ISO
>>> capabilities and not much else.
>> 
>> 
>> they have a certain rather eccentric,    je ne sais quoi... !
>> 
>> (rather like his manner of writing....)
>> 
>> that pulls you in,
>> 
>> Steve
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> I know from other contexts that Marc is a good photographer, and 
>>> prestigious
>>> organizations like the NYT pay him for his pictures, but that does not 
>>> mean
>>> that every picture he posts is great.
>>> 
>>> Or am I simply missing the point, just as I do when I look at pictures by
>>> Cindy Sherman or Eggleston (sp)?
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Nathan
>>> 
>>> Nathan Wajsman
>>> Alicante, Spain
>>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>>> 
>>> YNWA
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 29, 2011, at 8:01 PM, philippe.amard wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Oh yes Sir Rabs, f?erique !
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Philippe
>>>> 
>>>> Le 27 mai 11 ? 22:12, Mark Rabiner a ?crit :
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/110517_232552.jpg.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> Shot in my favorite 1:2 format; ok cropped later I soaked my SanDisk 
>>>>> in a
>>>>> bleach redevelop bath of Kodaks sepia toner. This coated each pixel 
>>>>> with a
>>>>> layer of sulfide which in effect makes them impervious to the sulfur
>>>>> dioxide
>>>>> in the atmosphere.  And prepares the image for hand coloring.
>>>>> F 4.5 @ a 60th @ iso 6400 and be there.
>>>>> With my ubiquitous Nikon 45mm 2.5 silver pancake made in actuality by
>>>>> Cosina.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I don't NEED auto focus I AM auto focus.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mark Focus
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Leica Users Group.
>>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Leica Users Group.
>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Leica Users Group.
>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Leica Users Group.
>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Leica Users Group.
> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information
> 



In reply to: Message from mark at rabinergroup.com (Mark Rabiner) ([Leica] Lincoln center flowers)