Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2011/05/29
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Frankly Frank comparing film through a loupe to a digital file on the flat screen is tricky and summons up dancing to architecture. It kind depends on how much unsharp mask you're applying or gets applied to the image before, during and after the shot. One can apply as much as we want and who knows what's acceptable, fair or normal? Or even what is is. Add a 20 unsharp setting you've matched Canon, 30 Nikon, 40 Zeiss, 50 Schneider and 60 Leica. Or make up your own number its all up for grabs. It also depends on which loupe you're using and ones inclination to like what one sees with a loupe more than what one see's on their computer screen. One can make the best 11x17 print they can from their inkjet and compare it to a 11x14 darkroom print from film and like one more than the other but it kind of feels like a comparison of printing processes and how good is your scanner? But one can look on the internet. Google image for example and see all the best shooters their output and on their galleries go back to their work in the 90's and see if that stuff looks sharper. It doesn't. It looks the same. I have boxes and boxes of prints. The 8.5x11 & 11x17 prints don't look less sharp then the 8x10 and 11x14 prints. And according to the specs they should. The injects often look sharper. Probalby the result of over sharpening. But who the hell knows? I've heard of no top photographer switch back to film after shooting digital because his or her prints were soft. Mark -------------------- Mark William Rabiner > From: Frank Filippone <red735i at earthlink.net> > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Date: Sun, 29 May 2011 16:45:00 -0700 > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > Subject: Re: [Leica] M8 Repair... Update > > I was comparing film through a loupe to my M8 ( or D1x) Files. The film is > noticeably sharper.... Edges are sharper, overall look is sharper. > > TMax100 in TMax RS. ASA 100, as an example./... Same Leica lenses. ( > obviously different Nikon lenses.,) 35 Summicron, and for a new lens, the > WATE, for example. > > No comparison through my eyes. > > Frank Filippone > Red735i at earthlink.net > >> >> But, to be honest, I think film is sharper.... by a wide margin. >> > > ?? what lens, what film ?? > > In my experience only fine-grain B&W film has a chance at being as sharp as > a B&W photo from an M8-class sensor, this because converting a file from a > Bayer-filtered sensor to B&W throws out 2/3 of the sensor's image data. > For > color photos, comparing the DMR and K25 using the 280mm f/4 APO the > difference was shocking, and this with the DMR at ISO 400. As it turned > out > I was glad it was my last K25. When printing (color prints) the biggest > I'm > willing to print my film photos now is 11" x 14" because bigger prints are > embarrassingly grainy and lacking detail when compared with 16" x 20" > prints > from the DMR. > > Doug Herr > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information