Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/11/07
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]The Tele-Elmarit is a fantastic lens. On the digital M cameras it exhibits focus shift and all its inherent "weaknesses" are magnified. my Tele-Elmarit works fantastically on my M4 but on the M8/M9 the focus throw of the barrel is too short and there is a bit of focus shift which is apparent. The 90mm ASPH Summicron displays some focus shift and this is based solely on the users of that lens and their experiences with it on digital M bodies. What works well on the M8 usually works well on the M9, the only differences being the edge performance that you can see in the M9 images. I wish the M9 were a panacea for rangefinder users, but we're not there yet with technology. Wide lenses still should be coded or manually selected, and for a few very popular lenses (21 Super-Angulon, 35 pre-ASPH 'Lux, CV 15mm...) the only solution is to dial in a lens profile from the menu. When changing lenses, it's kind of a pain in the ass. The 21 SA doesn't even have provision for a profile, so experimentation has to be done and a lot of exposure compensation dialed in too. That can be saved in a user profile but it's still a workaround. Granted, it's still fewer steps than accessing some of the functions in a Canon or Nikon DSLR. Tool for the job though, tool for the job. Phil Forrest On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 11:33:01 -0500 Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > The Tele-Elmarit was a disaster on wheels from the get go Sonny about > the most conspicuous disaster Leica had ever had and well before > someone invented the CCD or CMOS sensor. One of the dark times in the > history of Leica. Get you could use the normal neverready case for it > which also fit the 50! Leica was desperate and it showed. In this > case they just bit off a bit more than they could chew in the time > period as far as miniaturization goes. > I think the use of a digital camera gives us the immediate feedback > to be able to be able to be more critical of our glass then when we > possessed our negs in god knows what weeks to months later. > I'm not speaking of you personally Sonny as I obviously would have no > idea but many people are dealing on the level where they are playing > around with different developers with every roll and so much > different stuff I'm talking in the 90's and if their lens was bad it > wouldn't make much difference or it would be impossible to ascertain > by their results where in the chain the print had gone wrong. Proably > in more than two places. Their darkroom results were all over the > place from any number of a dozen other reasons. The first being they > didn't give a hoot it was never about consistent looking results but > about playing around. > > "Gee I wonder what will happen if use this stuff this time"? > > > -------------------- > Mark William Rabiner > Photography > http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/lugalrabs/ > mark at rabinergroup.com > Cars: http://tinyurl.com/2f7ptxb > > > > > > From: Sonny Carter <sonc.hegr at gmail.com> > > Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > > Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 10:10:58 -0600 > > To: Leica Users Group <lug at leica-users.org> > > Subject: Re: [Leica] Rangefinder error on M9 > > > > On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Mark Rabiner > > <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > > > > I think these people need very little reason cast aside one piece > > of choice gear to give them fodder to bid for another. > > > > I know your position on that, but if a piece of choice gear doesn't > > work for me, out it goes. > > > > When I started shooting my M8, I found two lenses that performed > > great on an M7 were mush on the M8. One was a CV 35 and the other > > was a Leica 90 tele-elmarit. > > > > After DAG said the CV was not adjustable, I sold it to a film guy. > > I still have the 90, and use it on my film cameras. I happily use > > a 75 in place of the 90. > > > > All that said, I'll point out that I have entirely too much gear, > > and I should sell some to give me fodder to get some more (better). > > > > > > -- > > Regards, > > > > Sonny > > http://sonc.com/look/ > > Natchitoches, Louisiana > > > > USA > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Leica Users Group. > > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information