Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/10/16

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Subject: [Leica] DMR Fiasco
From: mark at (Mark Rabiner)
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 18:20:52 -0400

Except that in this case one is investing in a first out high tech device
from a long standing manual hand crafted company which has by hook or by
crook come out with as a last gasp effort to stay alive one more year in a
field which then appeared way over their heads and the writing was very soon
on the wall in a field which was to be the single most competitive among all
consumer items next to maybe cell phones.
Short version:

It's a first out.

If the Bulova watche company came out with a pair or shoe's I'd wait a year
before I bought a pair. Make sure the ticking was put in right.

Mark William Rabiner
mark at

> From: James Laird <digiratidoc at>
> Reply-To: Leica Users Group <lug at>
> Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 12:58:33 -0500
> To: Leica Users Group <lug at>
> Subject: Re: [Leica] DMR Fiasco
> mehrdad,
> Absolutely. My point(s) exactly! You EXPECT spare parts to be
> available from any manufacturer, ESPECIALLY from one that charges what
> Leica does! And you know damn well they can contract SOMEONE to make
> them. Ain't that hard.
> James Laird
> On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 11:53 AM, mehrdad <msadat at> wrote:
>> geof here are some point to consider
>> 1) people pay a lot more for leica when compared to canon and nikon.
>> 2) batteries can be made anywhere and don't need a special relations with
>> hassleblad
>> 3) i heard from the horses mouth @ PMA when they told me hold on to your
>> stuff, a new R is coming
>> 4) then on/off switch for an r system equivalent or compatible has been 
>> used
>> for a while , not good
>> 5) u expect spare parts be available for your camera for a while, in the
>> case dmr, how can u not have the batteries, besides charging for it, it is
>> good pr
>> 6) thanks to george l for keeping the leica r relevant on this list
>> On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 12:06 AM, Geoff Hopkinson
>> <hopsternew at>wrote:
>>> James as you mentioned you don't own an R8 or R9 or DMR module so you may
>>> not be aware of all of the detail on this issue.
>>> The company that did make them has severed its relationship with Leica
>>> Camera since they are now direct competitors. So Leica simply does not
>>> possess the manufacturing capability to produce more even if it made
>>> commercial sense. In fact they were not a commercial success when 
>>> offered.
>>> Somewhere between 2 and 4000 in total is often mentioned as an estimate
>>> Leica Camera now recommend
>>> Maybe you could also call for an uprising against Nikon for changing the
>>> lens mount so that those tens if not hundreds of thousands of AI and AIS
>>> lenses would no longer meter on most Nikon SLRs now made ;-) Hardware 
>>> does
>>> evolve. No need to call for a Jihad ;-)
>>> Geoff
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>> ?regards, mehrdad
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