Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2010/09/19
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]Umm no . Firstly I think that the lawyers and Leica Camera might have something different to say regarding Mr Lee's separation from the company. Stefan Daniel did give official information and test cameras to some prominent web site folks beforehand (like Luminous Landscape) who did not leak. Also Herr Daniel did confirm to users that the M9 was coming as early as mid June last year. I was there. The same occasion when the R10 cancellation was announced. He also said that the 'suitable' solution for R lens owners would not be before this photokina. He made a list, you can check it twice. Next week you can check Santa's words for umm non-core promises. Have you been naughty or nice? The Panasonic cooperation will continue More compact cameras to come ** Leica is not going to offer MFT cameras Leica may offer MFT lenses MFT is an interesting system Sensor size is a very limiting factor ** Leica as Lens Supplier for Other Camera Systems Patents needed are only swapped inside of the Japanese camera industry Zeiss lenses are manufactured by Cosina who are seen as Japanese company That way Zeiss receives the patents, Leica as German company does not Leica's attempts to come to an agreement failed until now Reverse engineering is legally too risky There will be no digital SLR aka R10 But there will be - and we are working on this - a suitable solution how to use R lenses digitally It's very important to us, that owners of R lenses can take pictures digitally in the near future This solution will have nothing to do to with the S2 Leica has examined intensively which features and what price tag a R10 had to have Price would have been 6000 - 7000 Euro and it would have been far behind the competitors This would have been a solution for the existing customer base but not for new customers Therefore the R system is discontinued, the existing system runs out There is no due date for the new solution Indirect notes by Stefan Daniel to 35 mm full format Definitely it's not going to be a SLR ** The reasons for stopping the DMR were Cooperation with Imacon now Hasselblad ended very abruptly Sales figures were low (approx. 10% of M8/M8.2) The DMR firmware will have no updates. A LEICA M9 will come Developing full format is technically very demanding because of the M lenses We are one step further but still not there where we can announce the camera No more (M8) upgrades are planned Dealers don't like upgrades as no additional sales are generated The M8 upgrade constrained Leica M8.2 sales Used cameras are entry level cameras thus attracting new customers to Leica This would drop by future upgrade offers ** Sensor Supplier Kodak is prepared to Leica's needs, for example the special size of the S2 sensor Other manufacturers like Sony only offer a fixed range of sensors Cheers Geoff http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman On 20 September 2010 07:35, Mark Rabiner <mark at rabinergroup.com> wrote: > Don't really think though that leaking stuff to bloggers is a way Leica has > to pre set up a product announcement. I just think they're too old > fashioned > for that. > > The way the pre leaked the M9 was by firing their CEO who dared mention > that > one might be in the works, be at all possible to do, and that they'd ever > have any plans to do one. > "There will be no full frame Leica M forever." > And then boom we got one. > Now THAT'S BRILLIANT strategy. > > I think we need to not feel the rumor mill. By paying undo attention to it. > It seems to me to be people who want attention. > Read by wishful thinkers. > > -------------------- > Mark William Rabiner > Photography > mark at rabinergroup.com > > >