Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2009/09/09

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Subject: [Leica] X1 might be ok
From: henningw at (Henning Wulff)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 17:36:26 -0700
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Apparently the focussing is by one of those endlessly turning 
fly-by-wire rings, with only a scale on the LCD. As far as DOF you're 
on your own.

The performance would have to be a number of classes higher than the 
Pany GF1's to justify the price. The high ISO performance is likely 
better than the Pany's, but then the Panasonic can be had with a 
20/1.7 or 1 1/2 stops better, so the high ISO had better be quite a 
few stops better. And changing lenses is _much_ more difficult on the 
Leica. Panasonic, on the other hand has already announced a 14/2.8 
(28 equiv.) pancake lens for next year. Hopefully they can deliver as 
well as promise.

At least there are now some interesting options in this segment.

At 4:17 PM -0700 9/9/09, H. Ball Arche wrote:
>There are several things I'd want to know about this camera before 
>writing if off.
>How does the manual focus distance scale work, as well as the DOF 
>range indicator? If it's substantially improved over the LX3, with a 
>more readable foot/meter scale, that's a big plus, especially if you 
>can program a preset focal distance.
>Is the ISO 3200 performance really up to spec?
>Does the build quality approach my IIIc? (I'm insisting on seeing 
>the X1 as having the Barnack heritage; the brochure says 'all metal' 
>construction, but-)
>And if they could come up with 28 equivalent lens, and drop the 
>price to around $1500 by next fall, for my purposes it would answer 
>quite well.
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Henning Wulff <henningw at>
>To: Leica Users Group <lug at>
>Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 3:46:35 PM
>Subject: Re: [Leica] leica x1 @ popflash
>At 1:33 PM -0700 9/9/09, Richard Man wrote:
>>  IF it has much faster write time, then why would anyone else wants a
>>  Sigma DP-1, DP-2 etc.?
>1/2 the price? Foveon quality?
>I tried the DP-1 for a bit; in my personal opinion an almost 
>unuseable camera, but still, some people like it. The DP-2 is 
>better, but not enough.
>On the other hand, if you have Leica lenses, why would you want an 
>X-1? Used M8 prices are pretty close to X-1 prices, and while the 
>X-1 has autofocus, I doubt that it has as little lag as the M8.


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