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Subject: [Leica] Peter's article on Wagner is up
From: steve.barbour at gmail.com (Steve Barbour)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 16:21:41 -0700
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On Aug 7, 2009, at 3:38 PM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote:

> Steve, Nathan is my friend. He only said that the issue is simple  
> for him,
> nothing more.
> Others have different views. I expressed my opinion too as you are  
> doing.
> I think I was polite. I won't distract from Peter's original topic any
> longer.

I sense it is best to leave it at that Geoff...as  I respect you,  
Nathan, Peter, and out of that respect we are better off not beating  
this dead horse...

Steve


> 2009/8/8 Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com>
>
>>
>> On Aug 7, 2009, at 2:23 PM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote:
>>
>> Steve I understand what you said.
>>> Given my friend Nathan's reasons I thought it worthwhile to  
>>> support him.
>>> I cannot begin to comprehend how someone with Nathan's heritage  
>>> would
>>> feel.
>>> It's not an academic subject for generic discussion for him or  
>>> millions of
>>> others.
>>>
>>
>> and btw, it may well be a topic worthy of generic discussion, just  
>> as Peter
>> has done in his wonderful article...
>>
>> not to be willing to do so....
>>
>> can make us also guilty of acts based on blind hatred...
>>
>>
>>
>> Steve
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> 2009/8/8 Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Aug 7, 2009, at 8:04 AM, Geoff Hopkinson wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Steve, it is that simple for Nathan though, which is what he has  
>>>> said.
>>>>
>>>>> Naturally his strong views are unsurprising.
>>>>> Nathan has read the article though and complimented Peter on the  
>>>>> quality
>>>>> of
>>>>> his writing, despite those very understandable views.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> well aware Geoff, though I was trying to keep this generic,
>>>>
>>>> but thanks for pointing out the obvious...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2009/8/8 Steve Barbour <steve.barbour at gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Very well written article. For me, it is not that complicated.  
>>>>> Wagner
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> was a Nazi before the Nazi party even existed, and I will not  
>>>>>> touch
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> his music with a flagpole
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> it is not that simple,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> at least...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> if it were...I would find out the composers the Nazi's didn't  
>>>>>> like...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> they would be my favorite composers....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Steve
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Geoff
>>>>> Alles was eine gute Kamera braucht / Everything a good camera  
>>>>> needs:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/
>>>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Leica Users Group.
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>>>>> information
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> best,
>>>>
>>>> Steve
>>>>
>>>> steve.barbour at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cheers
>>> Geoff
>>> Alles was eine gute Kamera braucht / Everything a good camera needs:
>>>
>>> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/
>>> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>>>
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>>>
>>
>>
>> best,
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> steve.barbour at gmail.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
>
>
> -- 
> Cheers
> Geoff
> Alles was eine gute Kamera braucht / Everything a good camera needs:
>
> http://gallery.leica-users.org/v/gh/
> http://www.pbase.com/hoppyman
>
> _______________________________________________
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best,

Steve

steve.barbour at gmail.com










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