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Subject: [Leica] OT: Q re Possible Customs Fees re Shipping Laptop US to Bangkok
From: photo at frozenlight.eu (Nathan Wajsman)
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 22:11:02 +0200
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Bob, the answers to your questions vary from country to country.  
Frankly, the most useful advice would come from a LUGger living in  
Thailand. But I don't know if we have any list members there.

Cheers,
Nathan

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On Aug 7, 2009, at 10:01 PM, Robert D. Baron wrote:

> Nathan, thanks for your reply.
>
> I am curious - and you may not know this, I may have to search for it
> elsewhere - but is duty and/or VAT charged even if one is shipping
> one's own property to oneself?  For example, if I wanted to travel
> light and shipped my laptop or golf clubs (well, I don't play play
> golf) or whatever to catch up with me at some point in my travels,
> would I have to pay customs duty or VAT to receive same?  What about
> shipping a family member's laptop to catch up with them?
>
> Does labeling the item as a gift make any difference?  Or is it just
> the act of the goods crossing the border into the country that makes
> duty and/or tax due and whoever 'owns' the goods is irrelevant?
>
> Do we not have an international commerce and tax lawyer on the LUG?
>
> <g>
>
> Thanks,
>
> --Bob
>
> ==On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Nathan  
> Wajsman<photo at frozenlight.eu> wrote:
>> Hi Bob,
>>
>> In general, tariffs on industrial goods like computers are quite  
>> low these
>> days (I assume Thailand is a member of the WTO). For example, the  
>> customs
>> duty on photo gear imported into the EU from 3rd countries like the  
>> US is in
>> 3-4% range. In Europe, you also have to pay VAT (sales tax,  
>> basically) on
>> top of that, ranging from 15% to 25%, depending on country. I have  
>> no idea
>> if they have that in Thailand. More importantly, I also have no  
>> idea how
>> much red tape (if any) is associated with an item clearing customs  
>> there; in
>> a country like that I can imagine it could range from zero to  
>> several weeks.
>>
>> It is a good idea to use the USPS and not one of the express  
>> carriers like
>> UPS or Fedex. That is true for all international shipments. The  
>> reason is
>> that they will often charge the recipient a very high fee just for
>> performing the service of clearing customs. When I lived in  
>> Belgium, I once
>> had to pay UPS something like $50 on a $100 item that had not even  
>> incurred
>> any Belgian duty! With USPS, you never get ripped off in this  
>> manner. The
>> post office in the destination country will simply collect any duty  
>> and VAT
>> that may be due and that's it.
>>
>> Nathan
>>
>> Nathan Wajsman
>> Alicante, Spain
>> http://www.frozenlight.eu
>> http://www.greatpix.eu
>> http://www.nathanfoto.com
>>
>> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0
>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws
>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 7, 2009, at 1:20 PM, Robert D. Baron wrote:
>>
>>> A family member is traveling in Asia.  I've been asked to send out  
>>> an
>>> Apple G4 12' laptop.  I plan to send it through the US Post Office
>>> rather than a commercial carrier such as UPS or FedEx.  I would
>>> appreciate any advice I can get from knowledgeable members of the  
>>> LUG;
>>> in particular, I need to know roughly how much in customs duties the
>>> recipient is likely to have to pay (I will value it at $400 USD,  
>>> which
>>> seems reasonable based on current ebay listings).
>>>
>>> Off list replies would be fine but maybe on list would add to this
>>> wonderful repository of useful information.
>>>
>>> Of course it is somewhat on topic inasmuch as the laptop has  
>>> Photoshop on
>>> it.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> --Bob Baron / Oklahoma City
>>>  rbaron at concentric dot net
>>>
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