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Subject: [Leica]1.4/80 prices in Germany
From: philippe.amard at tele2.fr (Philippe AMARD)
Date: Sat Sep 20 07:15:20 2008
References: <092020081405.22863.48D5032D000E40E70000594F219791336303010CD2079C080C03BF970A9D9F9A0B9D09@mchsi.com>

If a non EU member - try the VAT off trick ;-)
good luck
phx


grduprey@mchsi.com wrote:

>Doug,
>
>Thanks for the info, The dealer who has it is asking $899, so I guess it 
>would be a good price.
>
>Gene
>
>-------------- Original message ----------------------
>From: Douglas Sharp <douglas.sharp@gmx.de>
>  
>
>>Gene,
>>the latest Fomag lists in Germany quote 800 Euros for the 1.4/80mm - 
>>means , depending on condition, dealer prices of anywhere between 600 
>>and 1600 Euros.
>>
>>The top price will vary according to what the dealer hopes to get for 
>>it, the lower price is an absolute minimum based on what a dealer 
>>clearing unsold second hand stock would ask, having given the previous 
>>owner around 350 to 400 euros for it.
>>
>>In Germany, prices vary a lot depending on whether it is
>>a) "Kommissionsware" (sold on commission, where the original owner sets 
>>the price - haggling on the price means the dealer will call the 
>>previous owner to see if he'll accept an offer)
>>or
>>b) a "Gelegenheit" (something taken in part exchange, with the price set 
>>by the dealer - you can haggle directly on this price). The advantage of 
>>the latter is that you get a 6-month or 1-year warranty (if the dealer 
>>says less, he's acting outside German trading regulations) this means 
>>that the store will take it back or have it repaired for you if it turns 
>>out to be defective.
>>
>>For the former, you usually get a so-called "?oebernahmegarantie" of a few 
>>weeks - this means test it and bring it back if its not OK to get your 
>>money back.
>>
>>So-called "Demonstrationsware" or "Vorf??hrware" means it's stuff that 
>>may have been lent out to good customers or just handled rather a lot in 
>>the store - this would come boxed with full papers and full Leica warranty.
>>
>>Hope this helps
>>Douglas
>>
>>
>>grduprey@mchsi.com wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>Mark,
>>>
>>>IT works just fine, and the M8 is the only camera I have here on my 
>>>trip... 
>>>      
>>>
>>Foolishly or not, I have taken up Ted's challenge.  ;-)  Working 
>>flawlessly so 
>>far, but sure wish I had a second one, so I would not have to change 
>>lenses so 
>>often.  I keep trying to talk SWMBO into letting me get another at 
>>Photokina, 
>>but so far she just smiles... ;-)
>>    
>>
>>>I will also add my wife has brought the D200 for her use.
>>>
>>>A question... What is a good price for a used 80/1.4 Summilux R?  It is 
>>>not a 
>>>      
>>>
>>ROM version, but is in very good condition.  I am thinking of buying it if 
>>the 
>>price is right.
>>    
>>
>>>Gene
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-------------- Original message ----------------------
>>>From: Mark Pope <mark.teampope@ntlworld.com>
>>>  
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Frank,
>>>>
>>>>A fair point, which is certainly valid with any software that originates 
>>>>from Redmond...However,would you have made the same comment if Leica had 
>>>>badged the software version differently? Say 1.3 rather than 2.0x?
>>>>
>>>>I have downloaded the software, but haven't got around to loading it yet 
>>>>but that's just me procrastinating rather than being reticent.
>>>>
>>>>I do have a concern about the apparent lack of a regression path to 
>>>>1.201, but so far I haven't heard of anyone turning their beloved M8 
>>>>into a paperweight.  I may give it a go this evening.
>>>>
>>>>All the best,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Mark
>>>>
>>>>red735i@earthlink.net wrote:
>>>>    
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>I do not own an M8 nor any other digital camera of consequence.  
>>>>>However I 
>>>>>      
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>find it incredible that ANYONE would upgrade to a new SW revision on 
>>>>their 
>>>>camera on the first day it is available.  ( or computer, or TV set or 
>>>>        
>>>>
>>whatever).
>>    
>>
>>>>    
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>I believe you should allow others to bulk field test the SW, find any 
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>faults, 
>>    
>>
>>>>>      
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>and give the company a chance to fix it.  Then, and only then, is it 
>>>>safe to 
>>>>downlaod the SW into my camera ( computer, etc.).
>>>>    
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>Let alone a pro that depends on the thing to actually work to earn an 
>>>>>      
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>income.....
>>>>    
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>Amazing.....
>>>>>
>>>>>Frank
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>-- 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Mark Pope,
>>>>Swindon, Wilts
>>>>UK
>>>>
>>>>Homepage http://www.monomagic.co.uk
>>>>Picture a week (2008): 
>>>>http://www.monomagic.co.uk/index.php?gallery=paw/2008
>>>>               (2007): 
>>>> http://www.monomagic.co.uk/index.php?gallery=paw/2007
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>        
>>>>
>>>
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