Archived posting to the Leica Users Group, 2008/07/17
[Author Prev] [Author Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Author Index] [Topic Index] [Home] [Search]On Jul 16, 2008, at 11:35 PM, Nathan Wajsman wrote: > It is a grey area, Gene. French privacy laws are very strict. > Basically, even for non-commercial use and even when the person > photographed is in a public place, you are not allowed to publish > their images (without their consent) if they depict the persons in a > delicate situation of some sort (I think the language in the law is > more like humiliating). So pictures of people smooching probably > fall into a grey area. Recent French case law, as referenced here on > the list yesterday, does seem to shift the balance somewhat towards > the photographers. thanks Nathan... do you have access to the French law, in French? Steve > > > Cheers, > Nathan > > Nathan Wajsman > Alicante, Spain > http://www.frozenlight.eu > http://www.greatpix.eu > http://www.nathanfoto.com > > Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 > PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws > Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog > > > > On Jul 17, 2008, at 2:16 AM, grduprey@mchsi.com wrote: > >> Nice set. What makes them illegal? >> >> Gene >> >> -------------- Original message ---------------------- >> From: Nathan Wajsman <photo@frozenlight.eu> >>> >>> Illegal Paris images here: >>> >>> http://www.nathanfoto.com/paw/15.jpg >>> http://www.nathanfoto.com/paw/2003/2003_30alt4.jpg >>> http://www.nathanfoto.com/paw/2005/2005_10alt4.jpg >>> http://www.nathanfoto.com/paw/2005/2005_10alt6.jpg >>> http://www.nathanfoto.com/paw/2005/2005_10alt8.jpg >>> http://www.nathanfoto.com/paw/2005/2005_10alt9.jpg >>> >>> I am happy to break French laws every time I am in France. So far >>> the >>> gendarmerie have not come after my web sites... >>> >>> Nathan >>> >>> Nathan Wajsman >>> Alicante, Spain >>> http://www.frozenlight.eu >>> http://www.greatpix.eu >>> http://www.nathanfoto.com >>> >>> Books: http://www.blurb.com/bookstore/search?search=wajsman&x=0&y=0 >>> PICTURE OF THE WEEK: http://www.fotocycle.dk/paws >>> Blog: http://www.fotocycle.dk/blog >>> >>> >>> >>> On Jul 12, 2008, at 3:16 PM, Alastair Firkin wrote: >>> >>>> Dodge the trouble, smile and keep shooting: that will be my plan in >>>> Paris. 3 weeks to capture a brief glimpse of life in 2008. It will >>>> be fun. I don't expect to upset anyone, but I do believe in street >>>> photography as a way to record the life we lead. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Alastair >>>> >>>> --- eboehmjr@gmail.com wrote: >>>> >>>> From: "Eric Boehm, Jr" <eboehmjr@gmail.com> >>>> To: "Leica Users Group" <lug@leica-users.org> >>>> Subject: Re: [Leica] Lecia Street Photography >>>> Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2008 08:30:11 -0400 >>>> >>>> Alastair, >>>> >>>> Indeed, a sad state of affairs. My understanding is that in a >>>> public >>>> arena one can photograph people as they are. The resulting >>>> photographs >>>> can be shown in the context of "art" providing they are not >>>> derogatory. And in my book, providing you do not make money off >>>> of the >>>> print. Salgado's images can seel for 10K a pop. I doubt the subject >>>> ever recieves anything for the image. Same goes for National >>>> Geographic. There are no model release forms there either. >>>> >>>> Eric >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 2:51 AM, Alastair Firkin >>>> <afirkin@afirkin.com> wrote: >>>>> I must make a quick comment. Leica are calling for MASTER IMAGES >>>>> via the LFI. They want M8 DLUX CLUX images only, to "prove" how >>>>> good these digital marvels are I suppose. When you read the fine >>>>> print, you have to have model releases for anyone in the images: >>>>> Well perhaps the photography the M was good for is now no longer >>>>> viable. I can't imagine traveling in India and having to get >>>>> someone to sign a release. >>>>> >>>>> I'm going to Paris in September for 3 weeks: one of my aims is to >>>>> make some street images, but in France the rules are even stricter >>>>> I believe. Certainly 60% of HCB's work would not pass the Leica >>>>> Master image requirements. For children you would have to track >>>>> down the legal guardians. It seems a bit depressing to use the M >>>>> to >>>>> take only animals, vegetables and minerals, and I suppose body >>>>> parts which cannot be identified. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers >>>>> >>>>> Alastair >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Leica Users Group. >>>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>>> information >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Eric W.A. Boehm, PhD >>>> Assistant Professor, Microbiology >>>> Department of Biological Sciences >>>> Kean University, 1000 Morris Ave. >>>> Union, NJ 07083 >>>> 908-737-3654 >>>> eboehm@kean.edu >>>> >>>> Research Website: http://www.eboehm.com/ >>>> Photography Website: http://www.streetphotographyisrael.com/ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>> information >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Leica Users Group. >>>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more >>>> information >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Leica Users Group. >>> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Leica Users Group. >> See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information > > > _______________________________________________ > Leica Users Group. > See http://leica-users.org/mailman/listinfo/lug for more information