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Subject: [Leica] pushing the envelope question
From: simon.apekop at (simon jessurun)
Date: Thu May 15 15:18:45 2008
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First thing I thought of but the camera is allmost noise free at 1600.

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 12:14 AM, Jim Nichols <>

> Simon,
> Observing the shutter speed of >3200 at ISO 1600, I don't think the problem
> could be camera shake.  I'm sure that the glass will diminish the detail to
> some degree, but I wonder if part of it is noise.  Did you try ISO 400?  
> You
> should still have a shutter speed of around 800, and, perhaps, better
> detail.
> Jim Nichols
> Tullahoma, TN USA
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "simon jessurun" <
> To: "Leica Users Group" <>
> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 4:58 PM
> Subject: [Leica] pushing the envelope question
>   I had to try and photograph number 2 daughter from our house.
>> With the naked eye the little beach is just visible but people are not.
>> Mounted the 560/1:6.8 Telyt on the Canon using one of mr.Gandies adapter
>> rings.
>> Handheld at ISO 1600 through thick double paned glass.
>> While it was a suprise to be able to recognise my daughter in the
>> picture,the lack of detail I did not understand.
>> The markIII not being a full frame sensor makes the telyt magnify like a
>> 730
>> would on 35mm.
>> Would that combination be refraction limited at the aperture used of F11.0
>> ?
>> Had no time to try something else like no glass in between etc.because I,m
>> studying hard for a new aircraft type
>> an Airbus! After flying 74's since 88 and past my retirement have steam
>> coming out of my ears.
>> Will experiment later with a 50 summicron R and the 400 telyt which I'm
>> fond
>> of.
>> The upload is a full size jpeg at low quality.The save quality made no
>> difference in resolution.
>> Best,Simon Jessurun,Amsterdam
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